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Model Railroading > Roco announces SD40 in HODate: 01/14/14 07:01 Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: MRL702 Austrian based model train maker ROCO announced the SD40 in HO. Its the company's first US-model for a very long time (ROCO produced for Altas long time ago. Roadnames of the first release are ATSF, PRR, CSX, CR and BNSF.
Here the catalogue text: "Completely new design with many separately attached plug-in parts that are partially etched. Elaborately designed grab irons and hand rails, engine with mass flywheel, drive on all six axles, true to the original claw coupling, finely designed wheel set with low flanges and LED lighting. 8-pole NEM 652 interface and 9-pole US interface. New design. Several roadnumbers available." The catalog shows prototype photos only. No estimated arrival date. Price in Europe is 199 Euros for the DC and 274 Euros for the DCC with sound model. I expect RP25 wheels and Kadee-style couplers as both are not the common standard in Europa. Date: 01/14/14 08:16 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: chs7-321 swsf Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > > Reading the feature description, I was wondering > what hobby they were in. :-) "True to original > claw coupling"? "Elaborately designed grab irons"? > "Wheels with low flanges"? "8-pole NEM 652 > interface and 9-pole US interface"? Almost sounds > like a totally different hobby than model > railroading! :-) Probably translated from German to English by someone not overly familiar with US rail terminology. :) "Claw coupling" - I have seen this several times in Roco's English-language brochures. "Knuckle" is a purely US-term for this style of a coupler as I believe they're referred to as something else in the UK. And think about it....the thing does look like a claw! ;) "Low-profile flanges" - European NEM-standard flanges are slightly deeper. While this might look less realistic, it's designed to be more operationally reliable on less-than-perfect track and tighter curves. Also, with chemically-darkened wheels, they're not that visible. Note: NEM standards are the European equivalent of NMRA standars in the U.S. "Elaborately-designed grab irons" - well, except for some switchers, vew few European loco types have the wide porches and the associated extensive grab railing. P.S. All in all, if the SD40 is anything like the current Roco Euro-outline locomotives, it should be a very solid model. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/14 08:17 by chs7-321. Date: 01/14/14 08:48 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: NSTopHat I seem to recall a couple of years back they announced a GE AC4400CW, which never came to fruition. I'll wait and see on this.
Russ Date: 01/14/14 09:01 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: spandfecerwin As I heard from an insider it is under production. But there is not announced a schedule.
See http://www.flipgorilla.com/p/23023990364711720/show#/23023990364711720/70 Erwin from Austria Date: 01/14/14 09:30 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: chs7-321 spandfecerwin Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > As I heard from an insider it is under production. > But there is not announced a schedule. > > See > http://www.flipgorilla.com/p/23023990364711720/sho > w#/23023990364711720/70 > > Erwin from Austria The rest of that brochure is somewhat tasty as well..... :) Date: 01/14/14 09:46 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: Stottman chs7-321 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > swsf Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > Reading the feature description, I was > wondering > > what hobby they were in. :-) "True to original > > claw coupling"? "Elaborately designed grab > irons"? > > "Wheels with low flanges"? "8-pole NEM 652 > > interface and 9-pole US interface"? Almost > sounds > > like a totally different hobby than model > > railroading! :-) > > > Probably translated from German to English by > someone not overly familiar with US rail > terminology. :) > > "Claw coupling" - I have seen this several times > in Roco's English-language brochures. "Knuckle" > is a purely US-term for this style of a coupler as > I believe they're referred to as something else in > the UK. And think about it....the thing does look > like a claw! ;) > > "Low-profile flanges" - European NEM-standard > flanges are slightly deeper. While this might > look less realistic, it's designed to be more > operationally reliable on less-than-perfect track > and tighter curves. Also, with > chemically-darkened wheels, they're not that > visible. > > Note: NEM standards are the European equivalent > of NMRA standars in the U.S. > > "Elaborately-designed grab irons" - well, except > for some switchers, vew few European loco types > have the wide porches and the associated extensive > grab railing. > > > P.S. All in all, if the SD40 is anything like the > current Roco Euro-outline locomotives, it should > be a very solid model. While stationed in Germany with the Army, I chatted with a Irish girl that worked at Mercedes as a translator... Her entire job was to run the German text through a computer, then correct any grammatical errors...Not actually read it to see if something was lost in translation. She only spoke very basic German. Date: 01/14/14 10:26 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: tracktime spandfecerwin Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > As I heard from an insider it is under production. > But there is not announced a schedule. > > See > http://www.flipgorilla.com/p/23023990364711720/sho > w#/23023990364711720/70 > > Erwin from Austria http://www.flipgorilla.com/p/23023990364711720/show#/23023990364711720/72 BELIHACK Snow Blowers!!! Someone on this board is going to be happy!! =) Not me, I still like those ancient rotary plows, but it is interesting! =) Cheers, Harry Date: 01/14/14 11:55 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: wpdude Gosh, who would have thought to offer an SD-40 in HO? :-)
Date: 01/14/14 12:33 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: gandydancer4 If I am correct, our friends who like 6 axle GE models might FINALLY get what they are wanting. Wait for it.
Date: 01/14/14 13:03 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: spandfecerwin swsf Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I'll take the model on page 102! :-) understandable Date: 01/14/14 13:03 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: chs7-321 swsf Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > chs7-321 Wrote: > > > > > > The rest of that brochure is somewhat tasty as > > well..... :) > > I'll take the model on page 102! :-) That's a different hobby! ;) I am more than willing to discuss that one, but perhaps start a new thread? Let's focus on model locos here and such.... :) Date: 01/14/14 13:11 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: toledopatch gandydancer4 Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > If I am correct, our friends who like 6 axle GE > models might FINALLY get what they are wanting. > Wait for it. Well, if you think about it, those UP C36-7s did end up in Estonia, so perhaps there is European interest in that model as well as American! Date: 01/14/14 13:16 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: Arved wpdude Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Gosh, who would have thought to offer an SD-40 in > HO? :-) Be thankful it's not yet another F7. Arved Grass Fleming Island, FL Date: 01/14/14 13:54 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: NSTopHat swsf Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > chs7-321 Wrote: > > > > > > The rest of that brochure is somewhat tasty as > > well..... :) > > I'll take the model on page 102! :-) I'll take mine off of page 19.... Date: 01/14/14 14:22 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: rschonfelder I am just wondering if there is/was any SD40's in BNSF? This surprises me.
Rick Date: 01/14/14 14:41 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: Pacific5th rschonfelder Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > I am just wondering if there is/was any SD40's in > BNSF? This surprises me. > > Rick BN and SF both brought SD40's with them. I'm not sure if any made it to BNSF paint but some of the BN ones were around till a few years ago. BNSF also bought a bunch of ex Canadien SD40's that Alstom? rebuilt, they were delivered in H1 paint. Date: 01/14/14 15:31 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: toledopatch Pacific5th Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > rschonfelder Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I am just wondering if there is/was any SD40's > in > > BNSF? This surprises me. > > > > Rick > > > BN and SF both brought SD40's with them. I'm not > sure if any made it to BNSF paint but some of the > BN ones were around till a few years ago. BNSF > also bought a bunch of ex Canadian SD40's that > Alstom? rebuilt, they were delivered in H1 paint. The Alstom/Alsthom rebuilds were what I was thinking of when I saw this. They originally had 7300-series numbers and showed up, I believe, in 1999. Most SD40s brought to the merger party were BN's. Santa Fe had a bunch of SD40-2s but only a handful (20, I believe) of SD40s. Date: 01/14/14 16:14 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: atsf5704 On BNSF's initial roster were 18 ex Santa Fe SD40s, 8 ex BN SD40s and 8 ex BN/GATX SD40 rebuilds.
At least 2 ex Santa Fe (6311 & 6312) and 1 ex BN SD40 (6319) got Heritage 1 paint. Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/14 16:17 by atsf5704. Date: 01/14/14 16:54 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: ChrisCampi First time I've used flipgorilla. Pretty slick!
Chris Date: 01/14/14 21:27 Re: Roco announces SD40 in HO Author: bnsfsd70 It never ran in revenue service, but one
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