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Date: 09/13/05 14:08
Does the Athearn GP50 have the extra-wide hood?
Author: pennsy3750

Any of you guys know if the Athearn blue-box GP50 is one of the ones that they did with the hood that was wider than scale? I'm thinking about rebuilding one into one of the GP38-3 rebuilds that NS made from their GP50s.



Date: 09/13/05 14:11
Re: Does the Athearn GP50 have the extra-wide hood?
Author: Grande-Fan

The GP50's hood are very close to scale width.
They are a good model, a lot better than the
old GP35's and SD45's.

Nathan Z.



Date: 09/13/05 17:46
Re: Does the Athearn GP50 have the extra-wide hood?
Author: mc5725

I own one each Athearn GP35, SD45, and GP50. The first two have lights on the nose and cab face, while the latter only has the ones on the cab. Of course, the GP35 came decorated for NYC and the SD45 was for BN, so the noselights on either were inaccurate anyway.



Date: 09/13/05 18:38
Re: Does the Athearn GP50 have the extra-wide hood?
Author: rrnut_99

The GP50 from Athearn has correct hood width.

I'm confused though. A GP38-3 rebuilt from a Dash 9????

L.G.



pennsy3750 Wrote:
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> Any of you guys know if the Athearn blue-box GP50
> is one of the ones that they did with the hood
> that was wider than scale? I'm thinking about
> rebuilding one into one of the GP38-3 rebuilds
> that NS made from their Dash 9s.





Date: 09/13/05 18:48
Re: Does the Athearn GP50 have the extra-wide hood?
Author: pennsy3750

> The GP50 from Athearn has correct hood width.
> I'm confused though. A GP38-3 rebuilt from a Dash 9????


Sorry bout that, had a brain fart. Should have said a GP38-3 that they rebuilt from their GP50s. These are the 5800-series units. Last I heard they were up to 5813 IIRC.

Fixing the typo in my original post now.



Date: 09/13/05 20:51
Re: Does the Athearn GP50 have the extra-wide hood?
Author: NSDash9

The NS GP38-3 rebuilds are up to 5818 now.


Chris Toth



Date: 09/14/05 03:48
Re: Does the Athearn GP50 have the extra-wide hood?
Author: Vinnie

I am currently modeling one of these and am almost finished. I decided to use a lot of Cannon parts on mine though.

Vince



Date: 09/14/05 04:36
For reference...
Author: BentnoseWillie

Widebody Athearns:
U-anything
GP7 (alias "GP9")
GP35 - original (with the removable cab roof)
SD45
SDP40

Non-Widebody Athearns:
SW7
SW1000
SW1500
GP35 (new version, former Rail Power shell)
GP38-2
GP40-2
GP50
GP60
GP60B
GP60M
MP15AC
RS3 (ex-MDC model)
SD38
SD40
SD40-2
SD40T-2
SD45-2
SD45T-2
SD50
SD60
SD70/SD70I
SD70MAC
SD75I/SD75M
Train Master (I knew I'd forget one!)
C44-9W
AC4400
CF7

And of course...
F3
F7F9
AMD103
F59PHI
F45/FP45
PA1

:^P

I dunno about the S12.

More of a "high-wide" myself, I remain:
B-Dubya



Date: 09/14/05 05:40
Re: For reference...
Author: Lighter

> SW7 (I think)
Correct. Prototype is a bit wider than a Geep.


Add Train Master to correct width list.


CT
NY



Date: 09/14/05 11:19
Re: For reference...
Author: csxt4617

BentnoseWillie Wrote:
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> Widebody Athearns:
> U-anything
> GP7 (alias "GP9")
> GP35 - original (with the removable cab roof)
> SD45
> SDP40

how about the SD9? I assume that's a fatty too :)
And the GP30, but that's LONG out of production.



Date: 09/14/05 11:32
Re: For reference...
Author: BentnoseWillie

Guilty. SD9 and GP30 are both fatties. I forgot about the SD9 - it's OOP.

The GP30 mold became the GP35 mold before I was born!

Forgetful again, I remain:
B-Du...uh...ah, bag it.



Date: 09/15/05 10:26
Re: For reference...
Author: SantaFeCF7

BentnoseWillie Wrote:
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> Guilty.
>
> The GP30 mold became the GP35 mold before I was
> born!
>
Actually, I think the tooling went on to Lionel HO or one of the other manufacturers at the time. At least that's what a club member told me a long time ago.....






Date: 09/15/05 10:41
Re: For reference...
Author: Lighter

> Actually, I think the tooling went on to Lionel HO
> or one of the other manufacturers at the time. At
> least that's what a club member told me a long
> time ago.....


No. The Lionel was quite accurate for that time. The Athearn dies were recycled into the GP35 which shared some parts with the GP30. Photos of the Lionel and Athearn in ads show how bad the Athearn was.

The Lionel /was/ recycled and still available from Bachmann. Until recently original Lionel shells, via BevBel, were available from A-Line.



Date: 09/15/05 12:02
Re: For reference...
Author: SW_Chief

Thanks BW for that comprehensive list, and all the others who helped refine it.

Greg



Date: 09/16/05 00:30
Re: For reference...
Author: SantaFeCF7

Lighter Wrote:
> No. The Lionel was quite accurate for that time.
> The Athearn dies were recycled into the GP35 which
> shared some parts with the GP30. Photos of the
> Lionel and Athearn in ads show how bad the Athearn
> was.
>
> The Lionel /was/ recycled and still available from
> Bachmann. Until recently original Lionel shells,
> via BevBel, were available from A-Line.


Thanks, I stand corrected, I never knew the true facts, glad to finally hear the REAL story.



Date: 09/16/05 21:37
Re: For reference...
Author: Castle_Romeo

BentnoseWillie Wrote:
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> Widebody Athearns:
> U-anything
> GP7 (alias "GP9")
> GP35 - original (with the removable cab roof)
> SD45
> SDP40
>
> Non-Widebody Athearns:
> SW7
> SW1000
> SW1500
> GP35 (new version, former Rail Power shell)
> GP38-2
> GP40-2
> GP50
> GP60
> GP60B
> GP60M
> MP15AC
> RS3 (ex-MDC model)
> SD38
> SD40
> SD40-2
> SD40T-2
> SD45-2
> SD45T-2
> SD50
> SD60
> SD70/SD70I
> SD70MAC
> SD75I/SD75M
> Train Master (I knew I'd forget one!)
> C44-9W
> AC4400
> CF7
>
> And of course...
> F3
> F7F9
> AMD103
> F59PHI
> F45/FP45
> PA1
>
> :^P
>
> I dunno about the S12.
>
> More of a "high-wide" myself, I remain:
> B-Dubya

Don't forget the DD40.
The DD40 fits into the "Widebody" catagory
.



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