Passenger Trains > 3(1) late, with Boy Scouts

* Train 3 of 07/01/2015.  
* Southwest Chief
* +---------------- Station Code
* |    +----------- Schedule Arrival Day  
* |    |  +-------- Schedule Arrival Time
* |    |  |     +----- Schedule Departure Day
* |    |  |     |  +-- Schedule Departure Time 
* |    |  |     |  |     +------------- Actual Arrival Time
* |    |  |     |  |     |     +------- Actual Departure Time
* |    |  |     |  |     |     |     +- Comments
* V    V  V     V  V     V     V     V
* CHI  *  *     1  300P  *     300P  Departed:  On time.
* NPV  *  *     1  335P  *     429P  Departed:  54 minutes late.
* MDT  *  *     1  424P  *     518P  Departed:  54 minutes late.
* PCT  *  *     1  446P  *     539P  Departed:  53 minutes late.
* GBB  1  535P  1  538P  631P  639P  Arrived:  56 minutes late.           |  Departed:  1 hour, 1 minute late.
* FMD  *  *     1  642P  *     752P  Departed:  1 hour, 10 minutes late.
* LAP  *  *     1  751P  *     915P  Departed:  1 hour, 24 minutes late.
* KCY  1  1011P 1  1045P 1202A 1221A Arrived:  1 hour, 51 minutes late.   |  Departed:  1 hour, 36 minutes late.
* LRC  *  *     1  1152P *     242A  Departed:  2 hours, 50 minutes late.
* TOP  *  *     2  1229A *     319A  Departed:  2 hours, 50 minutes late.
* NEW  *  *     2  245A  *     548A  Departed:  3 hours, 3 minutes late.
* HUT  *  *     2  320A  *     628A  Departed:  3 hours, 8 minutes late.
* DDG  2  519A  2  525A  831A  837A  Arrived:  3 hours, 12 minutes late.  |  Departed:  3 hours, 12 minutes late.
* GCK  *  *     2  621A  *     936A  Departed:  3 hours, 15 minutes late.
* LMR  *  *     2  659A  *     1031A Departed:  3 hours, 32 minutes late.
  LAJ  2  815A  2  830A  1128A       Arrived:  3 hours, 13 minutes late.
  TRI  *  *     2  950A              MT
  RAT  *  *     2  1056A             

3(1) has BNSF 7575 leading.

Apparent STATE OF GOOD REPAIR occurrence.

Large group of Boy Scouts aboard, on the way to the Scout Ranch at Philmont.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/15 14:48 by GenePoon.

They are going to run out of Pepsi, Pizza, and Cheeseburgers very soon. That is pretty much what they eat, and they can eat the snack car out of house and home.

Well, since their pilgrimage to Philmont aims to teach them about overcoming adversity and conquering challenges, I think a 3 hour delay in their arrival will be but a blip on their radar. 

ColdRainAndSnow Wrote:
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> Well, since their pilgrimage to Philmont aims to
> teach them about overcoming adversity and
> conquering challenges, I think a 3 hour delay in
> their arrival will be but a blip on their radar. 

A number of their fellow scouts learned about adversity this week when a very large flash flood overcame their campsite at 4:30 in the morning. Four were swept away and one of those (a 13-year old from Sacramento) drowned. They were camped 20 feet above and quite a distance away from the small creek whose watershed received more than several inches of rain in a short time.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/15 13:59 by Cumbresfan.

Cumbresfan Wrote:
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> A number of their fellow scouts learned about
> adversity this week when a very large flash flood
> overcame their campsite at 4:30 in the morning.
> Four were swept away and one of those (a 13-year
> old from Sacramento) was drowned. They were camped
> 20 feet above and quite a distance away from the
> small creek whose watershed received more than
> several inches of rain in a short time.

Wow, that's really sad to hear. I've only seen flash flooding once in my life, while sitting on the Chief outside of Gallup. There was a gully about 25 feet deep that had 23 feet of water rampaging through it. I was startled at how the entire gully was consumed with roiling, muddy water. I'm sorry for the loss of this young Scout. 

Made the trip with my Troop six times via Amtrak (Utica, NY to Raton, 1832 fun-filled miles); everyone loved the train, it was part of the adventure

Don't ever get a flat tire.


GenePoon Wrote:
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> * Train 3 of 07/01/2015.  
> * Southwest Chief
> * +---------------- Station Code
> * |    +----------- Schedule Arrival Day  
> * |    |  +-------- Schedule Arrival Time
> * |    |  |     +----- Schedule Departure
> Day
> * |    |  |     |  +-- Schedule Departure
> Time 
> * |    |  |     |  |     +-------------
> Actual Arrival Time
> * |    |  |     |  |     |     +-------
> Actual Departure Time
> * |    |  |     |  |     |     |    
> +- Comments
> * V    V  V     V  V     V     V    
> V
> * CHI  *  *     1  300P  *     300P
>  Departed:  On time.
> * NPV  *  *     1  335P  *     429P
>  Departed:  54 minutes late.
> * MDT  *  *     1  424P  *     518P
>  Departed:  54 minutes late.
> * PCT  *  *     1  446P  *     539P
>  Departed:  53 minutes late.
> * GBB  1  535P  1  538P  631P  639P
>  Arrived:  56 minutes late.           |
>  Departed:  1 hour, 1 minute late.
> * FMD  *  *     1  642P  *     752P
>  Departed:  1 hour, 10 minutes late.
> * LAP  *  *     1  751P  *     915P
>  Departed:  1 hour, 24 minutes late.
> * KCY  1  1011P 1  1045P 1202A 1221A Arrived:
>  1 hour, 51 minutes late.   |  Departed:  1
> hour, 36 minutes late.
> * LRC  *  *     1  1152P *     242A
>  Departed:  2 hours, 50 minutes late.
> * TOP  *  *     2  1229A *     319A
>  Departed:  2 hours, 50 minutes late.
> * NEW  *  *     2  245A  *     548A
>  Departed:  3 hours, 3 minutes late.
> * HUT  *  *     2  320A  *     628A
>  Departed:  3 hours, 8 minutes late.
> * DDG  2  519A  2  525A  831A  837A
>  Arrived:  3 hours, 12 minutes late.  |
>  Departed:  3 hours, 12 minutes late.
> * GCK  *  *     2  621A  *     936A
>  Departed:  3 hours, 15 minutes late.
> * LMR  *  *     2  659A  *     1031A
> Departed:  3 hours, 32 minutes late.
>   LAJ  2  815A  2  830A  1128A      
> Arrived:  3 hours, 13 minutes late.
>   TRI  *  *     2  950A            
>  MT
>   RAT  *  *     2  1056A          
>   
>
> 3(1) has BNSF 7575 leading.
>
> Apparent STATE OF GOOD REPAIR occurrence.
>
> Large group of Boy Scouts aboard, on the way to
> the Scout Ranch at Philmont.

ColdRainAndSnow Wrote:
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> Cumbresfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > A number of their fellow scouts learned about
> > adversity this week when a very large flash
> flood
> > overcame their campsite at 4:30 in the morning.
> > Four were swept away and one of those (a
> 13-year
> > old from Sacramento) was drowned. They were
> camped
> > 20 feet above and quite a distance away from
> the
> > small creek whose watershed received more than
> > several inches of rain in a short time.
>
> Wow, that's really sad to hear. I've only seen
> flash flooding once in my life, while sitting on
> the Chief outside of Gallup. There was a gully
> about 25 feet deep that had 23 feet of water
> rampaging through it. I was startled at how the
> entire gully was consumed with roiling, muddy
> water. I'm sorry for the loss of this young
> Scout. 

That "gully" is very likely the western NM Rio Puerco (not to be confused with the Rio Puerco SW of ABQ). The RR follows it from Church Rock east of Gallup into Arizona west of Gallup. 36 years ago this month a uranium mine waste tailings pond at Church Rock, NM failed releasing 1,100 tons and 93 million gallons of toxic and radioactive material into the stream. The wastewater ended up in northeastern Arizona in the Little Colorado River watershed. Depending on the reference source, the event is second only to Chenobyl and maybe Fukushima in the total amount of radiation released to the environment (I bet that little known fact is not included on the trip brochure riders on the Southwest Chief receive). I worked for the state at that time and collected water samples at Gallup. PPE was mostly rubber gloves and safety glasses, IIRC; we were not given radiation badges or scanned for radiation. Things are different now.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/15 18:04 by Cumbresfan.

Interesting nugget of NM history there. Had never known about that. Looking at the area more closely, I believe it was Salt Water Wash as I recall it being a bit west of Gallup proper. The flood's proximity to the tracks was unnerving though it didn't endanger the tracks. It was really eerie because the cell(s) that caused it were not even visible in the area. 

#3(1) lost another two hours between Raton and Las Vegas. Looking at the weather service radar and NWS ABQ, it looks like flash flood warnings/watches are out for that area, and west of ABQ it's looking bad also. We'll see how #4 does as it left Las Vegas at 5:23 MDT and by schedule it's about 1:50 to Raton.

http://www.srh.weather.gov/abq/



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/02/15 18:22 by Cumbresfan.

Cumbresfan Wrote:
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> #3(1) lost another two hours between Raton and Las
> Vegas. Looking at the weather service radar and
> NWS ABQ, it looks like flash flood
> warnings/watches are out for that area, and west
> of ABQ it's looking bad also. We'll see how #4
> does as it left Las Vegas at 5:23 MDT and by
> schedule it's about 1:50 to Raton.
>
> http://www.srh.weather.gov/abq/

Train crew was notified of flash flood warnings as they passed Fox, mp820.4 on the Glorieta Subdivision
(reported by a source on board the train).  The train lost two hours between Raton and Las Vegas, but
things got back to normal after that...now over five hours late.

Between 1-4pm this morning SPT is delayed an additional 2 hours.

Dave Toussaint
Riverside, CA
SoCalRailFan.com

previous post...."1-4pm this morning?"
and "SPT?"



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/03/15 08:48 by The_Chief_Way.

I seriously needed coffee LOL 1-4am PST ;-)

Dave Toussaint
Riverside, CA
SoCalRailFan.com

SoCalRailFan Wrote:
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> I seriously needed coffee LOL 1-4am PST ;-)

More coffee needed -- summer is PDT (or MST in AZ).

Now nearing 8 hrs. late approaching Barstow.

 

I went to Philmont in 1954. Boarded L&N in Owensboro, KY to St. Louis. Missouri Pacific to Kansas City, then Santa Fe to Raton, NM. Ths L&N and Missouri Pacific equipment was quite old. Santa Fe had near new Budd cars. While we were there we did a conservation project. We built a stone dam across a wash. A big rain that night and the resulting flood washed away the dam. I will always remember my experiences there fondly. Frank Corley