Passenger Trains > 60 min tonight driverless cars

wonder how that will affect other modes, i don't see a great deal of change myself, roads will still be packed..

kids will be all over it





but that story was nothing compared to the WW2 attrocities story...((((



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/04/15 19:01 by dan.

i watched it ... they work fine but they're about 10 years away from mainstream production driverless motor vehicles ... the deiverless vehicle sounds an alarm when it wants human interactive takeover control of the vehicle when it senses another vehicle getting too close ... Google and other tech companies building and testing this technology and are having some issues with snow ans heavy rain ...

this technology isn't only being tested by tech companies, major car companies such as Mercedes are sensing driverless vehicles being the wave of the future are also building and testing prototypes ...

Call me a Luddite if you want, but this is a horrible
idea!  Since when can computers be programmed
to foresee all possible situations?  And we already
have huge problems with newer cars being hacked
into remotely -- the hacker takes over complete
control of the car, making it IMPOSSIBLE for the
driver to STOP the car!

Google, etc., are doing this ONLY to sell software
and make money -- NOT because it is a good idea.

And I suppose the promoters of these awful cars will
lie and tell everyone that the computers in their cars
will never crash?

This sounds like a nighmare.

 



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Margaret_SP_fan Wrote:
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> Call me a L:uddite if you want, but this is a
> horrible
> idea!  Since when can computers be programmed
> to foresee all possible situations?  And we
> already
> have huge problems with newer cars being hacked
> into remotely -- the hacker takes over complete
> control of the car, making it IMPOSSIBLE for the
> driver to STOP the car!
>
> Google, etc., are doing this ONLY to sell
> software
> and make money -- NOT because it is a good idea.
>
> And I suppose the promoters of these awful cars
> will
> lie and tell everyone that the computers in their
> cars
> will never crash?
>
> This sounds like a nighmare.


Driving

Driverless cars will be a perfect way to move mindless people to the nearest maglev or hyperloop station where they can tweet to their heart's content.

Driverless cars? Bring it.

Too many mindless drivers nowadays....

So they're going to work as well as NS' auto router/movement planner aka"movement preventer".

Posted from Android

Heath_Tower Wrote:
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> Driverless cars? Bring it.
>
> Too many mindless drivers nowadays....

A cirix 25mhz chip processes faster than some airheads behind the wheel now.

I've seen driverless cars already, scary part is, there is someone behind the wheel...

NGotwalt Wrote:
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> I've seen driverless cars already, scary part is,
> there is someone behind the wheel...

yeah,.....that I will agree with.  I also like to say when
I see a driver acting stupidly, that they shouldn't let
toddlers drive.

I have seen pix of those driverless cars -- and they
are so small they look as though they would be
certain deathtraps in any collision.   There is absolutely
nothing in front or in back to absorb the energy of a
collision.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/05/15 01:02 by Margaret_SP_fan.

Considering that what little we've made driverless are mostly fixed guideway systems (people movers, e.g.) in the most controlled and simplest of situations, how does one make driverless vehicles for a typical urban scenario which is tremendously more complicated with a wide array of potential obstacles or changing conditions (cars, people, animals, potholes, road closures, snow/ice, fog, etc.)?   I'm not sure that's going to happen any time soon if ever.  It's a very daunting set of challenges to make it work reliably.

Guess you guys missed GE's latest announcement.....

 

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Margaret_SP_fan Wrote:
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> NGotwalt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I've seen driverless cars already, scary part
> is,
> > there is someone behind the wheel...
>
> yeah,.....that I will agree with.  I also like to
> say when
> I see a driver acting stupidly, that they
> shouldn't let
> toddlers drive.
>
> I have seen pix of those driverless cars -- and
> they
> are so small they look as though they would be
> certain deathtraps in any collision.   There is
> absolutely
> nothing in front or in back to absorb the energy
> of a
> collision.

You're confusing the structural design of Google's test vehicles with driverless technology.  They're unrelated....Mercedes uses a full size luxury vehicle to test and demonstrate their self-driving technology.

Dave

The driverless cars will lock us in and deliver us to the Soylent Processing plant.
"Soylent Green is people!"

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In the early 1950s my Dad, who had worked in the studios and loved movies, said TV would never become widely used and was a passing fad;  Donald Douglas said the market for jet transports was a few hundred at most; Baldwin was still promoting steam power, after hundreds of EMD FTs were in service; and  on and on.   As always the future is youth, not us oldies.  Could any of us forsee the computing power of a cheap cell phone, even 15 years ago?

When I do a transaction at a store or restaurant, I sometimes think, "That cash register has more computing power than the systems that NASA used to put men on the Moon."

DavidP Wrote:
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> Margaret_SP_fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > NGotwalt Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I've seen driverless cars already, scary part
> > is,
> > > there is someone behind the wheel...
> >
> > yeah,.....that I will agree with.  I also like
> to
> > say when
> > I see a driver acting stupidly, that they
> > shouldn't let
> > toddlers drive.
> >
> > I have seen pix of those driverless cars -- and
> > they
> > are so small they look as though they would be
> > certain deathtraps in any collision.   There
> is
> > absolutely
> > nothing in front or in back to absorb the
> energy
> > of a
> > collision.
>
> You're confusing the structural design of Google's
> test vehicles with driverless technology.
>  They're unrelated....Mercedes uses a full size
> luxury vehicle to test and demonstrate their
> self-driving technology.
>
> Dave

I did not know that.  Thanks for the info.  I still detest
driverless cars, for the reasons I gave -- now except
for the size.

One question: What happens when -- not if, but when --
the car's computers fail?  And they will.  I think the key
to how safe tnhese things will be is the ramkings given
to each posibility as far as how important each is
compared to each other -- in other words, our safety
when we use these driverless cars depends totally on
the judgment of whoever programmed their computers --
and that of their bosses..

One very important point that has not been mentioned:
Driverless cars do absolutely nothing to lessen traffic jams.
Just more money -- lots of it! -- going to the same old
drive-solo minsdset.  Sigh.....

Comments are welcome.   Thanks!

Margaret



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Shoot, you need to drive some of the newer cars. My latest Mustang can see three- sixty better then I can, speed me up and slow me down. This using radar. Not only is it a bad ass machine it's a joy to drive and much safer then ever before. With software such as Waze and other simular apps I've no doubt driverless cars are in our near future.

Chris

It is quite funny to read about a bunch of old farts who think they know anything about technology.

Technology-Jeske Wrote:
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> It is quite funny to read about a bunch of old
> farts who think they know anything about
> technology.

Careful. There are a number of people, including the oldsters whom you denigrate as a class, who regularly post on this board and who are very adept with and very knowledgeable about technology, and information technology in particular. Some have very deep experience in the foundational technologies that underlay this website, large networks, your smartphone, large scale enterprise-class business applications and databases, PTC, railroad dispatching systems, and a whole lot more. A little respect, if you please.

MC
Columbia, Missouri



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