Passenger Trains > Hot food available @ every meal for anyone on the Lake Shore

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/18 10:27 by darkcloud.

Why should sleeping car passengers pay for food in the cafe car, when their sleeping car fare already includes a $40 boxed meal?

Posted from iPhone

Because they got hungry between meals and wanted a snack?

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/18 10:27 by darkcloud.

darkcloud Wrote:
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> chrsjrcj Wrote:
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> > Why should sleeping car passengers pay for food
> in
> > the cafe car, when their sleeping car fare
> already
> > includes a $40 boxed meal?
> >
> > Posted from iPhone
>
>
> I know, right? I'm going to sue Hampton Inns
> because their complimentary breakfast (the cost of
> which is rolled into the room rate) didn't include
> donuts, so I had to buy them myself elsewhere.
>
> Maybe also sue Southwest Airlines because the
> offered me peanuts instead of gummy bears. How on
> earth do they fail to recognize our sense of
> entitlement?
>
> Oh, deep in my heart
> I do believe
> We shall overcome, some day

Give me a break.

I don't pay $600 (many cases more) to stay at a Hampton Inn.

La Croix? Ciabata? Chobani? Hummus? Sahale? Haribo? Chilaquiles? Kashi? Tomatillo?

I eschew food I can't pronounce. Grits survive.

EXACTLY!!! want real foods.

Lurch_in_ABQ Wrote:
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> La Croix? Ciabata? Chobani? Hummus? Sahale?
> Haribo? Chilaquiles? Kashi? Tomatillo?
>
> I eschew food I can't pronounce. Grits survive.

Imagine, having to go to a miserable Am-café, (with one attendant), while a brand new dining car rides along unused.

This is a shameful downgrading of this train -- which should prove to everyone that Anderson intensions is to damage Amtrak.

Hopefully Congress will become aware of what he is doing==and use political pressure behind closed doors to stop this bad apple.

The Chilaquiles are very good.

Posted from Android

ronald321 Wrote:
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> Imagine, having to go to a miserable Am-café,
> (with one attendant), while a brand new dining car
> rides along unused.
>
> This is a shameful downgrading of this train --
> which should prove to everyone that Anderson
> intensions is to damage Amtrak.
>
> Hopefully Congress will become aware of what he is
> doing==and use political pressure behind closed
> doors to stop this bad apple.

What makes you think he isn't doing what some in congress want?

Lurch_in_ABQ Wrote:
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> La Croix? Ciabata? Chobani? Hummus? Sahale?
> Haribo? Chilaquiles? Kashi? Tomatillo?
>
> I eschew food I can't pronounce. Grits survive.

Huhhh???? How can it difficult to pronounce "Hummus" or "Kashi?"

darkcloud Wrote:
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> chrsjrcj Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why should sleeping car passengers pay for food
> in
> > the cafe car, when their sleeping car fare
> already
> > includes a $40 boxed meal?
> >
> > Posted from iPhone
>
>
> I know, right? I'm going to sue Hampton Inns
> because their complimentary breakfast (the cost of
> which is rolled into the room rate) didn't include
> donuts, so I had to buy them myself elsewhere.
>
> Maybe also sue Southwest Airlines because the
> offered me peanuts instead of gummy bears. How on
> earth do they fail to recognize our sense of
> entitlement?
>
> Oh, deep in my heart
> I do believe
> We shall overcome, some day

You will never get it.

First off, the new cafe car menu is pricier than ever, and that option was always available - we knew that. They didn't cut the sleeping car rates when they got rid of the diner in favor of cheap, cold, and inadequate meals. It's called bait and switch, not entitlement. The fact is, they are not saving much money by their own admission of $3 million per year for the two trains, assuming all ticket revenue is retained. Prepared food wholesale costs more than raw food. They are merely outsourcing the job of the cook, not eliminating it. It also has to be individually wrapped and packaged, which costs more money, blowing away most of what they have saved on the staff they just laid off.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 06/14/18 06:14 by joemvcnj.

PHall Wrote:
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> ronald321 Wrote:
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> > Imagine, having to go to a miserable Am-café,
> > (with one attendant), while a brand new dining
> car
> > rides along unused.
> >
> > This is a shameful downgrading of this train --
> > which should prove to everyone that Anderson
> > intensions is to damage Amtrak.
> >
> > Hopefully Congress will become aware of what he
> is
> > doing==and use political pressure behind closed
> > doors to stop this bad apple.
>
> What makes you think he isn't doing what some in
> congress want?

Congress gave him the largest appropriation for the national network outside the NEC. Saving $1.5 million per train on this is a very stupid economy. If ticket revenue declines just 5%, it was for naught.

Posted from Android

Think about this - one Hampton Inn employee can set up
an entire breakfast buffet and serve many more customers
then Amtrak. We are talking hot eggs, sometimes scrambled
and other times omelets; breakfast meats; hot oatmeal;
waffles and everything else that's associated with Breakfast.
Why can't something like this be accomplished on Amtrak?

no sweet tea?

jeff56 Wrote:
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> Think about this - one Hampton Inn employee can
> set up
> an entire breakfast buffet and serve many more
> customers
> then Amtrak. We are talking hot eggs, sometimes
> scrambled
> and other times omelets; breakfast meats; hot
> oatmeal;
> waffles and everything else that's associated with
> Breakfast.
> Why can't something like this be accomplished on
> Amtrak?

Also at some other chains, like some Holiday In Express.

That is a buffet set-up with no portion controls. Amtrak does not have that.

After 6am, we would see one hotel employee scampering around, but what goes on to prepare all that, the hard-boiled eggs in the fridge, hot eggs of some sort, sausages, pancake goop, all the cold food, multiple coffee urns. Can that one person be there at 4am preparing all that, or is there other help ?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/14/18 06:16 by joemvcnj.

I will be on the Lake Shore this weekend and can't wait to try the food. Oh wait---- I will be in the Moonlight dome eating fine meals prepared by Chef Bill. Our annual private car History Train will be rolling to Albany
Joe

That's a good-looking menu!

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> jeff56 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Think about this - one Hampton Inn employee can
> > set up
> > an entire breakfast buffet and serve many more
> > customers
> > then Amtrak. We are talking hot eggs, sometimes
> > scrambled
> > and other times omelets; breakfast meats; hot
> > oatmeal;
> > waffles and everything else that's associated
> with
> > Breakfast.
> > Why can't something like this be accomplished
> on
> > Amtrak?
>
> Also at some other chains, like some Holiday In
> Express.
>
> That is a buffet set-up with no portion controls.
> Amtrak does not have that.
>
> After 6am, we would see one hotel employee
> scampering around, but what goes on to prepare all
> that, the hard-boiled eggs in the fridge, hot eggs
> of some sort, sausages, pancake goop, all the cold
> food, multiple coffee urns. Can that one person be
> there at 4am preparing all that, or is there other
> help ?

I average 40 nights a year, most all in Hampton Inns. Usually I see two people working about an hour before opening time for breakfast, preparing the buffet, etc. and then cleaning tables, emptying trash, etc. Funny thing to me is when you stay in 'full service' hotels at $200-300 a night, breakfast usually costs about $25 extra. Not to mention parking charges, etc. Somebody has to pay for all the usually vacant conference rooms and other 'amenities'.

utwazoo Wrote:
> Funny thing to me is when
> you stay in 'full service' hotels at $200-300 a
> night, breakfast usually costs about $25 extra.
> Not to mention parking charges, etc. Somebody has
> to pay for all the usually vacant conference rooms
> and other 'amenities'.

They'll nail you for picking up the room phone too, but that has backfired since most have cellphones. They figure it's expense account and a write-off. Not much of that on Amtrak LD trains.