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Date: 10/17/18 19:06
Question about Amtrak surplus equipment
Author: 611Fan

In respond to this
https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,4652623

Why is Amtrak selling 3 P42& old baggage cars ? They could use the baggage cars on routes that have to have a minimum # of cars to trigger gates ?

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Date: 10/17/18 19:27
Re: Question about Amtrak surplus equipment
Author: gbmott

The offer says “as is-where is” so I assume the P42s are wrecked or otherwise in a condition that makes them uneconomical to repair.  As for heritage baggage cars, Amtrak has more than are needed just to fill out consists.

Gordon



Date: 10/17/18 20:12
Re: Question about Amtrak surplus equipment
Author: OTG

AMTK 21 was wrecked in a Grade Crossing collision in 2013.  The other two were destroyed by fire back when all the GEs were spontaneously combusting about ten years ago.

Most of this list seems like scrap fodder.  I'm sure even the few things on there that are serviceable (*COUGHparlourcarsCOUGH*) are probably on this list with intent to be sold for scrap value, rather than as useable equipment.



Date: 10/18/18 15:38
Re: Question about Amtrak surplus equipment
Author: Cumbresfan

The list of equipment:

Amtrak® - Request for Bid
SALE OFFER 2019-02
 
Sale of Surplus Rolling Stock Equipment Diesel Locomotives and Rail Cars
 
Description:  Amtrak is soliciting bids for various decommissioned inactive fleet cars/locomotives.
 
LINE #1 - Heritage Baggage Cars – Weight 117,000 lbs. each                     
 
CAR #                   DESCRIPTION                                   LOCATION                                         BID PRICE:
              
#1707                   1953 Heritage Baggage Car          Beech Grove, IN                                             _________
#1717                   1953 Heritage Baggage Car          Beech Grove, IN                                             _________
#1730                   1961 Heritage Baggage Car          Beech Grove, IN                                             _________
#1733                   1961 Heritage Baggage Car          Beech Grove, IN                                             _________
#1755                   1950 Heritage Baggage Car          Beech Grove, IN                                             _________              
#1731                   1961 Heritage Baggage Car          Wilmington, DE                                _________
#1756                   1961 Heritage Baggage Car          Wilmington, DE                                _________
#1762                   1954 Heritage Baggage Car          Wilmington, DE                                _________
              
LINE #2 - Santa Fe “Parlour Cars” Hi-Level Lounge - Weight 194,000 lbs. each
 
CAR #                   DESCRIPTION                                                  LOCATION                          BID PRICE:
                                            
#39970                 1954 Parlour Car, High –Level Lounge       Beech Grove, IN               _________
#39972                 1954 Parlour Car, High –Level Lounge       Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#39973                 1954 Parlour Car, High –Level Lounge       Beech Grove, IN               _________         
#39974                 1954 Parlour Car, High –Level Lounge       Beech Grove, IN                              _________              
#39975                 1954 Parlour Car, High –Level Lounge       Beech Grove, IN               _________
 
LINE #3 - P40 Diesel Locomotive’s - Weight 263,340 lbs. each
 
CAR #                   DESCRIPTION                                                  LOCATION                          BID PRICE:
 
#800                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN               _________
#801                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#802                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#803                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#804                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN               _________
#805                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN               _________
#806                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#811                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#813                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#825                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#826                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#828                     1993 P-40 Diesel Locomotive                      Wilmington, DE                 _________
 
 
 
LINE #4 - Horizon Cars – Weight 110,500 lbs.
 
CAR #                   DESCRIPTION                                                  LOCATION                          BID PRICE:
                             
#58100                 1989 Horizon Club Dinette                           Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#54506                 1989 Horizon Coach                                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#54520                 1989 Horizon Coach                                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________              
#54528                 1989 Horizon Coach                                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#54538                 1989 Horizon Coach                                      Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#53502                 1989 Horizon Full Dinette                             Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#54564                 1989 Horizon Coach                                      Wilmington, DE                 _________
 
 
LINE #5 - EMD F40 Diesel Locomotive’s – Weight 260,340 lbs. each
 
CAR #                   DESCRIPTION                                                  LOCATION                          BID PRICE:          
#401                     1987      F40 Diesel Locomotive                   Bear, DE                             _________
#402                     1987      F40 Diesel Locomotive                   Bear, DE                             _________         
#404                     1987      F40 Diesel Locomotive                   Bear, DE                             _________
#408                     1987      F40 Diesel Locomotive                   Bear, DE                             _________
#409                     1987      F40 Diesel Locomotive                   Bear, DE                             _________
#403                     1987      F40 Diesel Locomotive                   Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#405                     1987      F40 Diesel Locomotive                   Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#407                     1987      F40 Diesel Locomotive                   Beech Grove, IN                              _________
 
 
LINE #6 - P42 Diesel Locomotive’s – Weight 268,000 lbs. each
 
CAR #                   DESCRIPTION                                                  LOCATION                          BID PRICE
#21                       1996 GE P42 Diesel                                        Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#49                       1997 GE P42 Diesel                                        Beech Grove, IN                              _________
#70                       1996 GE P42 Diesel                                        Beech Grove, IN                              _________
 
LINE #7 - Army Flats – Weight 130,000
    Material Handling Cars – Weights 101,000 lbs. each
 
CAR #                   DESCRIPTION                                                  LOCATION                          BID PRICE:          
#15679                 1953 Army Flat Car                                         New Haven, CT                 _________
#15744                 1953 Army Flat Car                                        New Haven, CT                 _________
#1503                   1990 Material Handling Car                         New Haven, CT                 _________
#1542                   1990 Material Handling Car                         New Haven, CT                 _________         
#1557                   1990 Material Handling Car                         New Haven, CT                 _________
 
BID CLOSE DATE:  November 14, 2018
Asset Recovery E-Mail:  assetrecovery@amtrak.com    

 



Date: 10/18/18 16:42
Re: Question about Amtrak surplus equipment
Author: jointauthority

Aren’t all the P40s forever rendered useless by the truck issue Amtrak created when their top notch maintenance program destroyed trucks on the Genesis fleet and they had to steal the trucks from under the P40s to use on the P42s?

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Date: 10/18/18 16:48
Re: Question about Amtrak surplus equipment
Author: railcity

Amtrak should give F40 too Altoona, Pa Train Museum. Altoona should get some new cars and engines. NS should donate engines too them.



Date: 10/18/18 17:35
Re: Question about Amtrak surplus equipment
Author: ns1000

railcity Wrote:
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> Amtrak should give F40 too Altoona, Pa Train
> Museum. Altoona should get some new cars and
> engines. NS should donate engines too them.

And put this equipment where....??!!   Those grounds look pretty full to me......



Date: 10/18/18 21:22
Re: Question about Amtrak surplus equipment
Author: railcity

ns1000 Wrote:
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> railcity Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Amtrak should give F40 too Altoona, Pa Train
> > Museum. Altoona should get some new cars and
> > engines. NS should donate engines too them.
>
> And put this equipment where....??!!   Those
> grounds look pretty full to me......


Inside the New Roundhouse they built few years ago.



Date: 10/19/18 05:37
Re: Question about Amtrak surplus equipment
Author: dcfbalcoS1

        You mean some places build big building to put wrecks and junk in ??



Date: 10/19/18 08:17
Re: Question about Amtrak surplus equipment
Author: jst3751

railcity Wrote:
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> ns1000 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > railcity Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Amtrak should give F40 too Altoona, Pa Train
> > > Museum. Altoona should get some new cars and
> > > engines. NS should donate engines too them.
> >
> > And put this equipment where....??!!   Those
> > grounds look pretty full to me......
>
>
> Inside the New Roundhouse they built few years
> ago.

You are more than welcome to contact the museum and discuss that with them and provide them with the assistance needed including any monetary assistance needed to facilitate your idea.



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