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Date: 07/16/19 12:38
Two More From CAF
Author: PCCRNSEngr

This mornning the Elmira Special departed from CAF Elmira Heights, NY with two more Bag-Dorms 69005 & 69006.

1. AMTK 111 pulling out of the plant gate Elmira Heights, Ny
2. AMTK 69005
3. AMTK 69006








Date: 07/16/19 12:48
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: PCCRNSEngr

4. AMTK 111 on CAF plant trackage Elmira, NY
5. AMTK 69005
6. AMTK 69006








Date: 07/16/19 12:53
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: PCCRNSEngr

7. AMTK 111 picking up NS pilots Elmira, NY
8-9 NS 096 AMTK 111-104 crossing the Chemung River Elmira, NY








Date: 07/16/19 12:58
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: Flyer92122

It’s sad and bittersweet.  Amtrak’s finally getting new equipment and decent funding but is being destroyed from within.



Date: 07/16/19 13:33
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: ronald321

Don't know how Anderson gets away with it.

All this equipment!! - diners, sleepers, and now Bagg-Dorms.  All brand new - all stored in Florida..

What a curse this guy's leadership  is to passenger rail.



Date: 07/16/19 16:40
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: chrsjrcj

ronald321 Wrote:
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> Don't know how Anderson gets away with it.
>
> All this equipment!! - diners, sleepers, and now
> Bagg-Dorms.  All brand new - all stored in
> Florida..
>
> What a curse this guy's leadership  is to
> passenger rail.

Why are we being so pessimistic? These will be great axle count cars in the Midwest!



Date: 07/17/19 08:36
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: 79mph

Not all stored, one is actually running out west this week.



Date: 07/17/19 11:00
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: SD45X

CAF?

LOL, to the answers below. Thank you:)
Guess Conferedate Air Force is unknown to you. CAF............
No I don't pay attention to ugly car builders..I rarely shoot them. See later post on the Charger test train.

Posted from iPhone



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/19 18:36 by SD45X.



Date: 07/17/19 11:12
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: DevalDragon

SD45X Wrote:
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> CAF?
>
> Posted from iPhone

The only way this can be a legitimate question is if you live under a rock and/or don't pay attention to anything. 

Some abbreviations can be ambiguous, but not to know CAF is the builder of the Viewliner II cars is mind boggling. Especially with all the years it has been discussed.



Date: 07/17/19 11:17
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: Dcmcrider

CAF is not ambiguous abbreviation, acronym, or initialism like EB*, CS**, etc. "CAF USA" is the formal name of the builder. Would you prefer Construcciones y Auxiliar de Ferrocarriles?

*Empire Builder, eastbound...?
**Coast Starlight, cab signal...?

Paul Wilson
Arlington, VA



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/17/19 13:40 by Dcmcrider.



Date: 07/17/19 11:20
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: choodude

SD45X Wrote:
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> CAF?


http://www.cafusa.com/en/index.php

Brian



Date: 07/17/19 11:22
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: Lackawanna484

PCCRNSEngr Wrote:
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> This mornning the Elmira Special departed from CAF
> Elmira Heights, NY with two more Bag-Dorms 69005 &
> 69006.
>
> 1. AMTK 111 pulling out of the plant gate Elmira
> Heights, Ny
> 2. AMTK 69005
> 3. AMTK 69006

Thanks for keeping track of all the diners, baggage cars, and these bag-dorms.  Did you photograph all of them? 



Date: 07/17/19 19:15
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: another_view

ronald321 Wrote:
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> Don't know how Anderson gets away with it.
>
> All this equipment!! - diners, sleepers, and now
> Bagg-Dorms.  All brand new - all stored in
> Florida..
>
> What a curse this guy's leadership  is to
> passenger rail.

How did Boardman get away with buying this crap to begin with and not holding the builder responsible for repeatedly missing deadlines, poor quality and late deliveries?



Date: 07/17/19 21:33
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: abyler

PCCRNSEngr Wrote:
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> 4. AMTK 111 on CAF plant trackage Elmira, NY
> 5. AMTK 69005
> 6. AMTK 69006

All of the baggage cars should have been made as this or as bag-coaches.  I have yet to see any of these baggage cars remotely full.



Date: 07/17/19 21:42
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: jp1822

abyler Wrote:
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> PCCRNSEngr Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 4. AMTK 111 on CAF plant trackage Elmira, NY
> > 5. AMTK 69005
> > 6. AMTK 69006
>
> All of the baggage cars should have been made as
> this or as bag-coaches.  I have yet to see any of
> these baggage cars remotely full.

Many agree with you, and have long made that argument! Full baggage cars - such a waste......



Date: 07/18/19 06:49
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: Dcmcrider

another_view Wrote:
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> ronald321 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don't know how Anderson gets away with it.
> >
> > All this equipment!! - diners, sleepers, and
> now
> > Bagg-Dorms.  All brand new - all stored in
> > Florida..
> >
> > What a curse this guy's leadership  is to
> > passenger rail.
>
> How did Boardman get away with buying this crap to
> begin with and not holding the builder responsible
> for repeatedly missing deadlines, poor quality and
> late deliveries?

Despite a lot of huffing and puffing from Amtrak, it does seem they've tolerated a lot from this builder, and Amtrak has willingly gone along with an attenuated delivery schedule. At the same time, CAF was laying off workers.

Here's the OIG report on weaknesses and risks in the CAF procurement, which came out in 2016.

https://amtrakoig.gov/sites/default/files/reports/CAF%20Final%20Report%2020160201.pdf

Paul Wilson
Arlington, VA



Date: 07/18/19 07:12
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: Lackawanna484

CAF has long enjoyed an umbra of support from senior NY legislators.  Senator Schumer, Governor Cuomo, Senator Clinton have all been associated with the rail projects in Elmira, Hornell, Plattsburgh, and Yonkers.

Inhdustrial jobs in "Upstate" are a huge political issue.



Date: 07/18/19 10:20
Re: Two More From CAF
Author: PCCRNSEngr

Lackawanna484 Wrote:
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> PCCRNSEngr Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This mornning the Elmira Special departed from
> CAF
> > Elmira Heights, NY with two more Bag-Dorms 69005
> &
> > 69006.
> >
> > 1. AMTK 111 pulling out of the plant gate
> Elmira
> > Heights, Ny
> > 2. AMTK 69005
> > 3. AMTK 69006
>
> Thanks for keeping track of all the diners,
> baggage cars, and these bag-dorms.  Did you
> photograph all of them? 

I missed one shipment of baggage cars as I arrived home from a trip to Florida that evening and the cars departed that morning.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/19 17:27 by PCCRNSEngr.



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