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Date: 08/28/19 06:01
Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: amtrakbill

Watching the Ashland Virginia rail cam this morning I noticed a northbound regional train with an amfleet car that now has a black roof 

I assume this might have been placed there to prevent water leaks but man does it look ugly!

think it could have been repaired to look the same by placing stainless steel back on the roof?

i took a screen shot of it but trainorders is not letting me down load it 

if you want to view go to the rail cam at 842am this morning and look at it 

maybe someone with better technical abilities can grab the shot and post 

Thanks Bill 




 



Date: 08/28/19 06:04
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: joemvcnj

Was it one of the business or official cars ? 



Date: 08/28/19 07:39
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: mbrotzman

Strange, most transit authorities use a grey paint/sealant that somewhat blends with the trainless steel.  The NJT Arrow III's just got the grey paint of shame.



Date: 08/28/19 07:56
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: amtrakbill

No it was in the middle of the train 



Date: 08/28/19 07:56
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: tmurray

Was it one of the former wrapped cars?
If not, yea, they're getting old and leaky. If the material sprayed on it was black, it beats getting wet. Replacing with stainless really isn't practical or an option, unless you find a donor Amfleet car with a perfect roof.



Date: 08/28/19 08:01
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: joemvcnj

Does water penetrate advertising shrink wrap ? 



Date: 08/28/19 08:24
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: bh35226

Third car from head end - car number 82624. 72 seat coach.



Date: 08/28/19 08:32
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: railfan400

There is another black roofed Amfleet coach in an earlier northbound train at 07:23 EDT. It's the fifth car of a nine car train.



Date: 08/28/19 08:56
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: dan

there are white roofing materials



Date: 08/28/19 09:04
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: MojaveBill

Roof color can affect air conditioning. Black absorbs heat while white reflects it.
Which is why you see so many white automobiles in the Southwest!

Bill Deaver
Tehachapi, CA



Date: 08/28/19 09:05
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: trainjunkie

dan Wrote:
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> there are white roofing materials

The black stuff was on sale.



Date: 08/28/19 09:11
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: GenePoon

trainjunkie Wrote:
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> dan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > there are white roofing materials
>
> The black stuff was on sale.
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+1  



Date: 08/28/19 09:27
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: curt416

 Back in the 1970's Southern Railway's Southern Crescent operated with some coaches that had black roofs. I do not know the reason for this.



Date: 08/28/19 09:29
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: map

It was Flex Seal.



Date: 08/28/19 12:15
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: DavidP

curt416 Wrote:
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>  Back in the 1970's Southern Railway's Southern
> Crescent operated with some coaches that had black
> roofs. I do not know the reason for this.

Several roads, including the Southern, ACL, NYC and New Haven seemed to favor black roofs on their Pullman-built stainless sheathed cars.

Dave



Date: 08/28/19 12:54
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: llafro

It's also common on cars that have a black roof to use a white stripe in the middle to decrease the heat loading inside the car. From most angles, the roof appears black.




Date: 08/28/19 13:01
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: retcsxcfm

Last picture looks like Norm's car with a
military train in Canada.

Uncle Joe
Seffner,Fl.



Date: 08/28/19 13:37
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: ts1457

llafro Wrote:
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> It's also common on cars that have a black roof to
> use a white stripe in the middle to decrease the
> heat loading inside the car. From most angles, the
> roof appears black.

I had never noticed that before.



Date: 08/28/19 16:12
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: CM80-46

That is Tioga Pass, it’s used occasionally by the Canadian Military on equipment moves with security personnel aboard.



Date: 08/28/19 19:00
Re: Amfleet car with black roof spotted
Author: DavidP

CM80-46 Wrote:
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> That is Tioga Pass, it’s used occasionally by
> the Canadian Military on equipment moves with
> security personnel aboard.

I thought it was the U.K. military traveling to their training site in western Canada.

Dave



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