Passenger Trains > Hollywood Beach & Tioga Pass

The Hollywood Beach tucked behind Charger 4609 on train 352 at 18th street, and the Tioga Pass rearmost on train 3 in Naperville. 

Seth- 

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Rich folks get to travel like that. 

UP951West Wrote:
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> Rich folks get to travel like that. 

Smart rich folks pay to ride other people's cars, rather than owning their own car. That way they get to stay rich:-)

WP17 Wrote:
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> Smart rich folks pay to ride other people's cars,
> rather than owning their own car. That way they
> get to stay rich:-)

Ha, that made me chuckle because there is some truth to it.  However, there's enormous pride of ownership when one has a PV.

-John

That  HOLLYWOOD    design  could  be  usefull in this  century.  Diner  lounge?  

cutboy1958 Wrote:
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> That  HOLLYWOOD    design  could  be
>  usefull in this  century.  Diner  lounge?  

5 double bedrooms, kitchen and lounge for 24. 

cutboy1958 Wrote:
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> That  HOLLYWOOD    design  could  be
>  usefull in this  century.  Diner  lounge?  

That literally could be your Viewliner Lounge Design, or even Viewliner II shell design in general (with some modification). Amtrak went from having an eclectic array of passenger cars - inherited from other roads - when it started out, to a utilitarian standardization. Even with the latter they can't realize that the 1/2 cafe and 1/2 business class Amfleet car with its leather seating is a car that should command a premium fare. It actually could be more than just a "business class" car. Frankly "business class" doesn't even make sense as a classification any more. Standardized cars are aging as a tough sell when passengers are wanting more comfort onboard, or larger windows, etc. Some passengers are willing to pay for added amenities if they are offered. Is it a three level class option that is offered - coach, touring, premiere class? You can still have a basic level of coach service, but then augment it with various "add-ons" or service levels that the passenger pays for. Amtrak is constantly stymied because it can't execute on creative opportunities. There are many opportunities that Amtrak passes right on by that would add to revenue. Amtrak has been too busy trying to subtract things, as a way to "save money" or cut costs! Amtrak could learn a lot from private car owners, but they have decided to shun them away instead. 

Thank you for the comments. I didn't know I was rich. Rather, I thought I was just running a business and enjoying it!

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Norman Orfall
Helendale, CA
TIOGA PASS, a private railcar

Your stories are rich.

The secret to making a small fortune with a private railcar is to start with a (somewhat) larger fortune...

UP951West Wrote:
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> Rich folks get to travel like that.

So do non-rich folks.

You do not have to be rich to put aside money here and there for discretionary spending. 

I know the owners of both cars.They are not trying
to get rich!

Uncle Joe

retcsxcfm Wrote:
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> I know the owners of both cars.They are not
> trying
> to get rich!
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> Uncle Joe

Agree.

I don't consider myself rich, and I have enjoyed private car travel in the past, and hope to again.  Most of the private car owners I've met are not what you would call "rich."  The same for the riders, too.

Jim

PV  Tioga Pass rolled by Flagstaff Friday evening at 9:48 PM. One hour and 11 minutes late.
As seen on Virtual Railfan Cam.

James R.(Jim) Baker
Whittier, CA

A PV on a 3## train? Not something one sees often.

Posted from iPhone

Jimbo Wrote:
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> retcsxcfm Wrote:
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> > I know the owners of both cars.They are not
> > trying
> > to get rich!
> >
> > Uncle Joe
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> Agree.
>
> I don't consider myself rich, and I have enjoyed
> private car travel in the past, and hope to again.
>  Most of the private car owners I've met are not
> what you would call "rich."  The same for the
> riders, too.
>
> Jim
I'm not rich either, but I have ridden the Tioga Pass several times and hope to again.  Like an earlier poster said, I set a side money for some discretionary spending.