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Date: 11/30/22 14:05
Ski Train is back
Author: dan

Official word from the CZ fb group, starting jan 13.

shorter than last year due to the equipment shortage  was also stated, so it looks like Beech Grove will still have no effect on cars by January.



Date: 11/30/22 14:18
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: joemvcnj

Do any OBS people staff the cafe car, or isn't there one ?



Date: 11/30/22 14:26
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: dan

there was last couple of years



Date: 11/30/22 14:49
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: Peak45068

dan Wrote:
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> Official word from the CZ fb group, starting jan
> 13.
>
> shorter than last year due to the equipment
> shortage  was also stated, so it looks like Beech
> Grove will still have no effect on cars by
> January.

What’s the consist details

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Date: 11/30/22 14:51
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: sagehen

Does that mean Trains 27/28 (Portland half of the Empire Builder) will lose its Coach-Baggage and have to tow a Transition Dorm or Baggage Car to replace it?  Last season the ski train used up the Coach-Baggage cars.

Stan Praisewater



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/22 16:55 by sagehen.



Date: 11/30/22 15:43
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: joemvcnj

dan Wrote:
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> there was last couple of years

So they have to deadhead someone out from Chicago for the weekend ? Easier said than done. 



Date: 11/30/22 16:02
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: jp1822

The Ski Train is two stops - Denver and Winter Park. Can't they use a Viewliner baggage car for the trip, rather than displacing the Portland section of the Empire Builder....... Skis and other luggage would actually fit better in the baggage car than trying to use a Superliner Coach-Baggage car.........



Date: 11/30/22 19:13
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: PHall

jp1822 Wrote:
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> The Ski Train is two stops - Denver and Winter
> Park. Can't they use a Viewliner baggage car for
> the trip, rather than displacing the Portland
> section of the Empire Builder....... Skis and
> other luggage would actually fit better in the
> baggage car than trying to use a Superliner
> Coach-Baggage car.........

But wouldn't using the Viewliner Baggage give you the high level to low level coupling problem? i.e. mismatched diaphragms.



Date: 11/30/22 19:31
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: dan

i think the diaphrams can handle it? being mis matched, doesn't that occur on regular trains.

The amtrak lounge car attendent may just get flow in and out, a few years ago the engine crew got at least one guy to live out here, for the duration.



Date: 11/30/22 23:24
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: PHall

dan Wrote:
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> i think the diaphrams can handle it? being mis
> matched, doesn't that occur on regular trains.
>
> The amtrak lounge car attendent may just get flow
> in and out, a few years ago the engine crew got at
> least one guy to live out here, for the duration.

On the front end of the Transition-Dorm the door and the diaphragm are at the low level height so no mismatch.



Date: 12/01/22 01:40
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: mp51w

Well, they had been running on the rear end of a Superliner consist too!



Date: 12/01/22 04:08
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: joemvcnj

Baggage cars have a tubular diaphragm, so can be coupled to anything. 



Date: 12/01/22 06:54
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: symph1

Hundreds of pairs of skis and other equipment, loaded and unloaded twice for each round trip: the low level baggage doors are MUCH easier than passing them up.Scroll through the pics here and you'll see what I mean. https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?4,5430887,5431377#msg-5431377



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/22 06:58 by symph1.



Date: 12/01/22 07:47
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: dan

Never been a trans Dorm On the ski train that I can recall we will have to see who the advertising sponsor is this year for the wraps



Date: 12/01/22 07:58
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: HoggerMatt

dan Wrote:

a few years ago the engine crew got at
> least one guy to live out here, for the duration.

So they couldn't get anyone from the Denver crew base to bid the job from their own base? Interesting

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Date: 12/01/22 11:02
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: PHall

HoggerMatt Wrote:
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> dan Wrote:
>
> a few years ago the engine crew got at
> > least one guy to live out here, for the
> duration.
>
> So they couldn't get anyone from the Denver crew
> base to bid the job from their own base?
> Interesting
>
> Posted from Android

Maybe they only have enough bodies to cover 5/6 and that's it.



Date: 12/01/22 11:18
Re: Ski Train is back
Author: dan

denver crews are tight, as everywhere, been times the train5/6 gets held waiting for a rested crew, as happened thru out the west

another benefit of ski train operations , is that the power sometimes becomes protect power for the CZ



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