International Railroad Discussion > Smoky train (Brazil)

Hi, sometimes we use to see a locomotive with a deregulated prime mover and producing a lot of smoke. That´s what I found in the yard neaby while watching some old narrow gauge  GE´s U20C switching. Difficult to breathe  with so many smoke in the air.

Pedro

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,

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More here.

Pedro

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

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From the white smoke I'd say that the units had been idling for a long time and overcooled.

KG

Interesting...I didn't know on it. Thanks.

kgmontreal Wrote:
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> From the white smoke I'd say that the units had
> been idling for a long time and overcooled.
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> KG

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Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

Love the dual guage track.

What is the horsepower ? Engine Model? 

Javier Ortiz
Dallas, TX

chefjavier Wrote:
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> What is the horsepower ? Engine Model? 

They are GE U20Cs, FDL 8 engine - standard GE export model, although I suspect the Brasilian ones were built in Brasil.

Thanks, I love those smoking locos. At first, I thought it was an Alco engine..lol

86235 Wrote:
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> chefjavier Wrote:
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> > What is the horsepower? Engine Model? 
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> They are GE U20Cs, FDL 8 engine - standard GE
> export model, although I suspect the Brasilian
> ones were built in Brasil.

Javier Ortiz
Dallas, TX

Nothing more than one of several things one could be low compression which at idle will cause some cylinders to not fire at all causing over fueling, bad injectors or fuel rack, these are just some of the problems never have heard of over cooling being one. It so nice that they are part of the global cause of enviornment problems and do nothing to change things. But we in the US must do more becuase they do less.

Linda foto!

YY
 

The GE U20C are rated to 2,000HP when new, but most of them are belived rated to 1,800 HP nowadays

chefjavier Wrote:
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> What is the horsepower ? Engine Model? 

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

Ypu´re right, most of them were built here in Brazil, ina plant not far from my home.

86235 Wrote:
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> chefjavier Wrote:
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> > What is the horsepower ? Engine Model? 
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> They are GE U20Cs, FDL 8 engine - standard GE
> export model, although I suspect the Brasilian
> ones were built in Brasil.

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1

Not exactly. In Brazil we have less than 1800 locomotives in operation nowadays. Just one of the US class one have more locomotive that the whole Latin American railroads together.
Brazil was the first country to use ethanol. In fact, most of the fleet nowadays use ethanol from sugar cane and the gasoline in Brazil have 25 percent of ethanol on it. Biodiesel is on almost every station around the country. Also, the energy matrix here is hydropower, not coal burner.  So, I think one or two locomotive with a deregulated engine won´t  affect the world climate.

BAB Wrote:
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> Nothing more than one of several things one could
> be low compression which at idle will cause some
> cylinders to not fire at all causing over fueling,
> bad injectors or fuel rack, these are just some of
> the problems never have heard of over cooling
> being one. It so nice that they are part of the
> global cause of enviornment problems and do
> nothing to change things. But we in the US must do
> more becuase they do less.

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1