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Date: 08/15/20 19:51
Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

Hi, today afternoon I visited EVP and ENG yards to look for news. I found empty rail train V098 at EVP leaded by BB36-7 9537, former ATSF SF30C 9537. U20C 3865 were in the train too and was waiting to be removed from V098 by the crew that were switching the Local at ENG.
Enjoy
1 - 3) EFVM 9537
 

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,









Date: 08/15/20 20:04
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

4 -6) side views

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Vespasiano MG,
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Date: 08/15/20 20:07
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

7 - 9) Details

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Vespasiano MG,
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Date: 08/15/20 20:08
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

10 - 11) U20C 3865
12) Rail cars

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Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1








Date: 08/15/20 20:10
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

13 - 15) Freight cars at  ENG yard

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Vespasiano MG,
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Date: 08/15/20 20:12
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

16 - 18) More freight cars at ENG.

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Vespasiano MG,
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Date: 08/15/20 20:15
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

19 - 21) Vale stainless steel  ore cars

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Vespasiano MG,
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Date: 08/15/20 20:18
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

22) Loading facility
23 - 24) ENG yard seen from a road nearby.

That's all for now

Pedro

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1








Date: 08/16/20 05:21
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: CM80-46

Thank you Pedro for venturing out to do some railfanning and sharing your pics with us. I have become fascinated with the trains you post. Have found a source for HO models, but a bit pricey for my retirement budget . All the locomotives have the paint schemes you show us.  Also those intriguing cement cars, but $30US apiece plus $20 each for shipping. Ouch! It might be an engine and one car train!
Thank you again for entertaining us with your wonderful railroads during these stay at home days.
CM80.46



Date: 08/16/20 06:56
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: tomstp

Pedro:  Do you know what size (pounds per yard) the welded steel rail in the rail train was?



Date: 08/16/20 09:18
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

Hi, VLI has rails varying from TR37 to TR68 (kg per meter), depending of the line. The line linking Minas to Bahia and states beyond uses TR37 to TR45 rails, but it has receiving TR57 in some locations.
My area is almost all TR57. These rail trains are providing new TR68 rails to broad gauge FNS. The rail bars have 280 meters long.
Vale is almost all TR68. MRS is TR57 and TR68

tomstp Wrote:
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> Pedro:  Do you know what size (pounds per yard)
> the welded steel rail in the rail train was?

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Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1



Date: 08/16/20 18:01
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: tomstp

TR68= 149.9 pounds per yard.  That would be very large rail (if I figured it correctly)  That is really big rail.



Date: 08/16/20 18:41
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: sarailfan

Except that a meter is 39", so 68 kg per meter is 138 lb per yard, which could be a rounding error on relatively standard 136 lb rail. Does Brazil use the same rail cross section as the US and Canada?

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Darren Boes
Lethbridge, AB
Southern Alberta Railfan



Date: 08/16/20 19:33
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

Hi,   iron ore railroads use heavy rails since the ore trains are very heavy and the big rails reduces the  rail wear. Our GDU class cars have gross weight of 144 tons and the ore trains vary from 144 to 434 ore cars, and many trains a day .

 
sarailfan Wrote:
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> Except that a meter is 39", so 68 kg per meter is
> 138 lb per yard, which could be a rounding error
> on relatively standard 136 lb rail. Does Brazil
> use the same rail cross section as the US and
> Canada?
>
> Posted from Android

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1






Date: 08/18/20 14:59
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: Frank30

Pedro:

Thanks for all the interesting photos you post.

Regarding your shots of 9537 and 3865, to me it appears these are two different gauge engines
(one being much larger than the other). Or are they both the same gauge but of  different horsepower?
 
Is it even  possible to run two different gauges within a train,
assuming that the two gauges of track continue from beginning to the end of the trip?

Do offset couplers exist to allow a match-up of 2 different gauges?

Frank30 (Boston)



Date: 08/18/20 18:02
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: pedrop

Hi Frank,

9537 is standard gauge B36-7 rebuilt to meter gauge by Vale mining in 2003, that's why it has four B trucks.
In Brazil we have dual gauge trains. We can have narrow gauge locomotives pulling large gauge cars, or the opposite, or narrow and broad gauge locomotives in DPU too. Watch this video. Note that there is a special car to do the transition from broad to narrow gauge.

VLI dual gauge trains

Frank30 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Pedro:
>
> Thanks for all the interesting photos you post.
>
> Regarding your shots of 9537 and 3865, to me it
> appears these are two different gauge engines
> (one being much larger than the other). Or are
> they both the same gauge but of  different
> horsepower?
>  
> Is it even  possible to run two different gauges
> within a train,
> assuming that the two gauges of track continue
> from beginning to the end of the trip?
>
> Do offset couplers exist to allow a match-up of 2
> different gauges?
>
> Frank30 (Boston)

Posted from Android

Pedro Rezende
Vespasiano MG,
https://youtube.com/c/minasgeraisrailways1



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/20 18:22 by pedrop.

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Date: 08/18/20 21:52
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: tomstp

Wow Pedro, a little close!



Date: 08/19/20 16:19
Re: Former ATSF SF30C here in town (Brazil)
Author: PasadenaSub

Wow, quite a difference in height between those 2 locomotives!

Great set of photos,

Rich



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