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Date: 05/25/20 23:05
Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: TheNavigator

Lots of information and some great pictures of today’s SoCal Schnabel move in the threads below; just adding my $0.02 to what’s been posted.  (Thanks also for the position reports along the way.)

Thanks for looking,
GK

1.  The Schnabel special approaching the Barton Rd. overpass in Grand Terrace on the San Bernardino Sub.

2.  View of the car with its load.

3.  The load itself.

Few more to follow.

 








Date: 05/25/20 23:07
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: TheNavigator

4.  Passing through Colton, near the site of the old Colton Tower.

5.  On the move near Ono on the Cajon Sub, after having stopped at San Bernardino for a crew change.






Date: 05/25/20 23:08
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: TheNavigator

6. and 7.  At Verdemont.
 






Date: 05/25/20 23:22
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: MrMRL

Nice. Did it even make it to Cajon Station before sunset?

2301 - Schnabel passed Lugo heading down the backside of Cajon Pass towards Hesperia and beyond.

​~ Mr. MRL
 



Date: 05/25/20 23:40
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: chrisparker

Good clean shots.

Photos 5 and 7 of the Schnabel show good detail.
Thanks for posting.

Posted from Android



Date: 05/25/20 23:55
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: mapboy

TheNavigator Wrote:
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> ... 5.  On the move near Ono on the Cajon Sub, after
> having stopped at San Bernardino for a crew
> change.

Golden light!  Crew changes at Laguna Niguel, La Sierra and San Bernardino, and not at Daggett yet.

mapboy



Date: 05/26/20 00:10
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: MrMRL

In case it gets buried in the other thread....


Car Number: KRL 3600 

Origin: San Onofre, CA 
Destination: Arrolime, NV 
Shipper/Consignee: EnergySolLLC 
Contents: Reactor Pressure Vessel 
Type of Load: Schnabel 
  
Max Height of Load = 20 ft. 4 in. 
Max Width of Load = 15 ft. 6 in. 
Load Length = 44 ft. 11 in. 
Overhang Length = 0 ft. 0 in. 
Loaded Car Length = 231 ft. 8 in. 
Truck Centers = 165 ft. 2 in. 
Axles = 36 
Net Weight = 1,540,000 lb. 
Gross Weight = 2,280,800 lb. 
Combined Center of Gravity Estimated to be 105.15 in ATR (above the rail). 
Max Allowed Load Shift: 24 in. Lateral, 44 in. Vertical 
Maximum Speed: 15 mph 

~ Mr. MRL



Date: 05/26/20 00:13
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: ble692

MrMRL Wrote:
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> Nice. Did it even make it to Cajon Station before sunset?

Looks like it passed Cajon at 20:10 and I think sunset was about 19:50 or so.



Date: 05/26/20 03:41
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: MrMRL

0300 - Schnabel passed Oro Grande, waiting somewhere East of town for its 4th crew to pull it into Barstow, CA.

Also just realized, since this car was built in 1980, 40 year FRA life span is basically up? Will this car be decommissioned allowing the blue one (built in 2012) to take over for future runs?

~ Mr. MRL



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/20 03:44 by MrMRL.



Date: 05/26/20 06:55
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: Ray_Murphy

MrMRL Wrote:
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> Also just realized, since this car was built in
> 1980, 40 year FRA life span is basically up? Will
> this car be decommissioned allowing the blue one
> (built in 2012) to take over for future runs?

This is not a standard freight car used in conventional interchange service - it's a specially-engineered car used in carefully planned/inspected services so I would imagine the 40 year rule does not apply.

Ray



Date: 05/26/20 07:14
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: mapboy

MrMRL Wrote:
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> 0300 - Schnabel passed Oro Grande, waiting
> somewhere East of town for its 4th crew to pull it
> into Barstow, CA...
> ~ Mr. MRL

Hard to keep track of the crews!
1st crew picked up the cars at San Onofre.
2nd crew got on at Laguna Niguel.
3rd crew got on at La Sierra.
4th crew got on at San Bernardino.
5th crew got on at Oro Grande.
Need a load like this every day to get the furloughed guys back at work.

mapboy

Edit: the special went by the Barstow webcam at 06:13.  The west camera is fixed, the east camera zoomed in tight.  Looks like it went Main 1 past Barstow Yard and to UP at Daggett for interchange.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/26/20 07:27 by mapboy.



Date: 05/26/20 07:19
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: goneon66

thanks for the hi/wide info mr. mrl............

66



Date: 05/26/20 07:49
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: scraphauler

Ray_Murphy Wrote:
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> MrMRL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Also just realized, since this car was built in
> > 1980, 40 year FRA life span is basically up?
> Will
> > this car be decommissioned allowing the blue
> one
> > (built in 2012) to take over for future runs?
>
> This is not a standard freight car used in
> conventional interchange service - it's a
> specially-engineered car used in carefully
> planned/inspected services so I would imagine the
> 40 year rule does not apply.
>
> Ray

The rule is 50 years not 40.  Anything built after 7/1/74 is automatically a 50 year car and is eligible for increased life service to 65 years, soemthing that assuredly would be done for this specialized car.  So you have ten years before you need to apply for ILS which would give you another 15.  So it will be around for a while.



Date: 05/26/20 09:22
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: inyosub

Are there any photos of the caboose assigned to this move? looks interesting.



Date: 05/26/20 09:33
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: MrMRL

inyosub Wrote:
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> Are there any photos of the caboose assigned to
> this move? looks interesting.

TO member Martin Young snagged a couple great sun lit side shots of both the front and rear KRL cabeese used for this move, at the bottom of page one and top of page two in the thread linked below.

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?1,5031210


~ Mr. MRL



Date: 05/26/20 10:01
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: inyosub

Thank you sir Mr MRL  the Green Caboose lineage looked intriguing. I see it is marked for KRL was
not sure if it would be. So that answers that.



Date: 05/26/20 11:05
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: ns1000

Very nice..!!



Date: 05/26/20 12:51
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: callum_out

That move will prove to be expensive! And what does 10.000+ diesel locomotive horsepower
equate to what'll be needed on the road. Anyone know if they're doing Hwy 93 North of Apex?

Out
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Date: 05/26/20 14:29
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: PasadenaSub

Great set of photos, Gary.  Nice to see some down-on shots from above.

Rich



Date: 05/26/20 15:50
Re: Oh No! More Schnabel!
Author: DynamicBrake

Great series Gary, thanks for sharing.  You got a lot of different perspectives.  That glint shot is nice.

Kent in CArmel Valley



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