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Depending on how the CP-KCS merger goes, it has been confirmed by CP CEO Keith Creel in the article below that CP 2816 Empress is planned to be at the head of a passenger special from Calgary, Alberta to Mexico City after the merger is completed AT LEAST by next year.
CPKC a ‘Powerful Combination’ - Railway Age



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/17/21 19:33 by akpsteam.

If in fact that’s true will this not be the first time a steam engine will have operated in three separate countries on the same railway? This could be the chase to end all chases.

cvrrr

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/17/21 19:43 by cvrrr.

Wonder if it'll travel through any "danger zones" on its way through Mexico... that is if this does happen..

SLORailfanning Wrote:
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> Wonder if it'll travel through any "danger zones"
> on its way through Mexico... that is if this does
> happen..

What, you think one of the cartels will put a hit on it?

PHall Wrote:
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> SLORailfanning Wrote:
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> > Wonder if it'll travel through any "danger
> zones"
> > on its way through Mexico... that is if this
> does
> > happen..
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> What, you think one of the cartels will put a hit
> on it?

Foamer cartel.. No, more so if it would be safe to chase through the region

UP ran a special (diesels) to Mexico City, took their own water, would a steamer need an Art Lockman car type water treatment system?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/17/21 22:35 by dan.

Wonder what water treatment NdeM used on their narrow gauge articulateds, that ran on the passenger trains.

Out 

As a purist steam photographer...can there be anything more ridiculous than a CP Hudson, being pushed by a diesel thru a desert, framed in a cactus.  Like the Big Boy on a single track, going thru a corn field.......I'll pass.

That’s a huge disappointment to read I’m sure I can speak for everyone on the forum when I say we were very much looking forward to your coverage of this train when it runs.

Keystone1 Wrote:
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> As a purist steam photographer...can there be
> anything more ridiculous than a CP Hudson, being
> pushed by a diesel thru a desert, framed in a
> cactus.  Like the Big Boy on a single track,
> going thru a corn field.......I'll pass.

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akpsteam Wrote:
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> Depending on how the CP-KCS merger goes, it has
> been confirmed by CP CEO Keith Creel in the
> article below that CP 2816 Empress is planned to
> be at the head of a passenger special from
> Calgary, Alberta to Mexico City after the merger
> is completed AT LEAST by next year.
> CPKC a ‘Powerful Combination’ - Railway Age

Remember that the 2816 is past-due her 15 year boiler inspection & re-certification.

Keystone1 Wrote:
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> As a purist steam photographer...can there be
> anything more ridiculous than a CP Hudson, being
> pushed by a diesel thru a desert, framed in a
> cactus.  Like the Big Boy on a single track,
> going thru a corn field.......I'll pass.

 

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Keystone1 Wrote:
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> As a purist steam photographer...can there be
> anything more ridiculous than a CP Hudson, being
> pushed by a diesel thru a desert, framed in a
> cactus.  

How about said locomotive adorned with the flags of Canada, United States and Mexico?  :)

Seriously, I think it's a nice gesture.  CPR could easily decide to run the special with a diesel, instead.

Over the years, there have been plenty of examples of steam locomotives in places far away from their original assignments (examples: a Burlington 2-8-2 to Grand Canyon Railway and 261 at Steamtown).  See also LoggerHogger's post in today's (Sept 18) steam board.

Looks better going through that rice field than sitting in a museum in California!

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> Remember that the 2816 is past-due her 15 year
> boiler inspection & re-certification.

Assuming a competent team could be brought in shortly, is a transcontinental trip next year a realistic possibility?

Even if it's not, I think it is a good sign that some of the CEO's first published comments are enthusiasm about a very long steam excursion.

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Keystone1 Wrote:
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> As a purist steam photographer...can there be
> anything more ridiculous than a CP Hudson, being
> pushed by a diesel thru a desert, framed in a
> cactus.  Like the Big Boy on a single track,
> going thru a corn field.......I'll pass.

I would have thought you would have left the hobby when they painted 5632 Gold.

cvrrr Wrote:
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> If in fact that’s true will this not be the
> first time a steam engine will have operated in
> three separate countries on the same railway?

Except that it's KCSdM in Mexico, so three countries, two railways.

SZ

A-1 Wrote:
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> > Remember that the 2816 is past-due her 15 year
> > boiler inspection & re-certification.
>
> Assuming a competent team could be brought in
> shortly, is a transcontinental trip next year a
> realistic possibility?

No, as it will take more than one year to "put the merger together".


> Even if it's not, I think it is a good sign that
> some of the CEO's first published comments are
> enthusiasm about a very long steam excursion.

One can only hope.

No worse than another CP Hudson that ran around the South with "Southern" painted down the side of it....oh, and also had a diesel behind it numerous times.

Keystone1 Wrote:
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> As a purist steam photographer...can there be
> anything more ridiculous than a CP Hudson, being
> pushed by a diesel thru a desert, framed in a
> cactus.  Like the Big Boy on a single track,
> going thru a corn field.......I'll pass.

Gladly take any thing that is available

That is an impressive shot. WELL DONE,Sir!

srfreer Wrote:
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> Keystone1 Wrote:
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> > As a purist steam photographer...can there be
> > anything more ridiculous than a CP Hudson,
> being
> > pushed by a diesel thru a desert, framed in a
> > cactus.  Like the Big Boy on a single track,
> > going thru a corn field.......I'll pass.
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