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Date: 08/09/18 20:13
Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: MartyBernard

NOTE:  The first two slides are sequentially numbered.  That means Rick took the shot at Oakland, then high-tailed it 43 miles up to Suisan-Fairfield for the second shot.  The timetable allows the City 1:18 with 4 intermediate stops.

1. SP 3202 with the City of San Francisco, Train 102, Oakland, CA 16th Street Station in January 1968.

2. SP 3032 with the City of San Francisco, Train 102, Suisan-Fairfield, CA Station in January 1968.

3. SP SDP45 3207 with the San Joaquin Daylight, Berkeley, CA in October, 1967.


Enjoy,
Marty Bernard



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/09/18 20:18 by MartyBernard.








Date: 08/09/18 21:20
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: UP951West

What great shots these are !  Thanks for posting them. 



Date: 08/10/18 01:06
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: DFWJIM

Very nice shots. Besides Martinez and Suisun-Fairfield where else did the City stop?



Date: 08/10/18 01:28
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: MartyBernard

Berkeley, Richmond, and Crockette



Date: 08/10/18 01:50
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: dan

sweet rpo



Date: 08/10/18 05:57
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: Englewood

IMHO the last good looking passenger power built!
They look all business, no silly frills, no european influenced styling, no pastel paint job......



Date: 08/10/18 06:00
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: SR2

Englewood Wrote:
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> IMHO the last good looking passenger power built!
> They look all business, no silly frills, no
> european influenced styling, no pastel paint
> job......

Anybody on TO know how they performed? 



Date: 08/10/18 09:29
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: ExStarlightHog

SR2 Wrote:
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> Englewood Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > IMHO the last good looking passenger power
> built!
> > They look all business, no silly frills, no
> > european influenced styling, no pastel paint
> > job......
>
> Anybody on TO know how they performed? 
We used them on the peninsula commutes for a long time after they retired the FM's.  Lots of get-up-and-go, but hard to stop with a short train because they were so heavy.  You had to watch your speed between the short station distances.  A Geep might get you up to 50, but these would have you near 70 in the same distance. 



Date: 08/10/18 12:00
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: 41

Pic 1: the fourth car looks like a MILW rib-side coach. If so, very odd for one to be that far from home.....



Date: 08/10/18 12:10
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: MILW16

41 Wrote:
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> Pic 1: the fourth car looks like a MILW rib-side
> coach. If so, very odd for one to be that far
> from home.....

I thought the same thing, but on closer examination I believe it is one of SP's fluted side coaches.  By this time the MILW ribbed-side cars (built in 1942) were getting scarce even out of Chicago.  I don't believe anty of them received leg rest seats.



Date: 08/10/18 14:02
Re: 4th car
Author: timz

I'm guessing the fourth car is a UP Budd coach.



Date: 08/10/18 15:33
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: WAF

dan Wrote:
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> sweet rpo

No RPO



Date: 08/10/18 15:35
Re: 4th car
Author: WAF

timz Wrote:
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> I'm guessing the fourth car is a UP Budd coach.

Don't see the outline of the number plate



Date: 08/10/18 15:39
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: TCnR

What is the second car of the thrid photo?

Two tall doors with small windows between them, sure reminds me of the latter SP RPO's.

> -----
> > sweet rpo
>
> No RPO



Date: 08/10/18 15:40
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: WAF

PS dorm baggage eith 3100 or 3101



Date: 08/10/18 16:00
Re: 51
Author: timz

Does look like an RPO, doesn't it?
If so, built for what train?



Date: 08/10/18 16:03
Re: 4th car
Author: MartyBernard

Here is the raw scan.   Marty




Date: 08/10/18 16:51
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: TCnR

Looking at it again I see the third door and the mail bag hook. These cars were bought new near the end of Mail Contracts and became famous for being stored at Bayshore longer than they were on the road in service. Pretty fancy car but pretty late in that era.

TCnR Wrote:
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> What is the second car of the thrid photo?
>
> Two tall doors with small windows between them,
> sure reminds me of the latter SP RPO's.
>
> > -----
> > > sweet rpo
> >
> > No RPO



Date: 08/10/18 16:54
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: WAF

Nope, one door at the front. SP Baggage dorm made by Pullman standard



Date: 08/10/18 16:58
Re: Three of SP SDP45s With Passenger Trains -- Rick Burn
Author: Topfuel

WAF Wrote:
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> Nope, one door at the front. SP Baggage dorm made
> by Pullman standard.

Yes, definitely a PS baggage dorm.  Note the unusual-for-a-post-war-car flush mounted baggage door, just like the pre-war Daylight combines had as-built. 



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