Nostalgia & History > A MILW Joe whereizit, but whats the second to last unit?

Bruce Black took this shot, don't have a location .... tried to ID the unit models but when I got to seond to the last one I couldn't ....

See Evan's posts below to clear this up!!!
Thanks Evan ....



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/18 15:09 by valmont.

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Steeplecab switcher E82.  See these photos of the same train:

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,3434306

Evan_Werkema Wrote:
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> Steeplecab switcher E82.  See these photos of the
> same train:
>
> https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11
> ,3434306

sorry Evan, secind to last unit ... will change, posted those other pics so long ago I forgot about them.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/18 15:01 by valmont.

valmont Wrote:

> sorry Evan, secind to last unit

E57B by this stage in its career was usually used as a switcher at Harlowton, MT.  The unit still exists:

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,4650637

Taken from around milepost 210 on I-90 between Butte and Anaconda from the Westbound lanes.

https://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?11,2785879,2786406#msg-2786406

Here is an earlier thread from a different time of year. Scroll down and you can get the pictures of what it looked like in 2011.

I am so greatful that Bruce Black went out and got so many pictures of the Milwaukee Road. I am more greatful that you share them here with us.

Thank you

Jim

Edit: Trying to get the link to work



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/16/18 19:57 by tq-07fan.

Evan_Werkema Wrote:
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> valmont Wrote:
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> > sorry Evan, secind to last unit
>
> E57B by this stage in its career was usually used
> as a switcher at Harlowton, MT. 


The E57B's trucks and car body are on display at a park in Harlowton. All electrical equipment and traction motors were gutted.

A complete two unit set, the 10200A&B is on display inside at Lake Superior Railroad Museum in Duluth, MN.

-John

If I read everything correctly, and I don't always do that, the second to the last unit "appears" to be an SD45, of which the Milwaukee had ten,
a number I can be corrected on.  The last unit is the electric box cab.  Just my two cents worth.

Nick Tharalson,
Marion, IA

ntharalson Wrote:
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> If I read everything correctly, and I don't always
> do that, the second to the last unit "appears" to
> be an SD45, of which the Milwaukee had ten,
> a number I can be corrected on.  The last unit is
> the electric box cab.  Just my two cents worth.
>
> Nick Tharalson,
> Marion, IA

They're kinda smushed together by the perspective, Nick, but the last unit is E82 steeple cab, 2nd to last is box cab E57B, then two diesels and two Joes.  It's much more apparent if you follow the link to pictures posted earlier.

-John



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/17/18 08:48 by LarryDoyle.

The diesels are an SD45 and a GP40 in front of it.

What I wanna know is, with E82 and E57B both out of service, what was doing the work switching that day in Harlowton?  E34C (aka E47D) was a bobtail, and didn't even have a hostler's control.  Heaven forbid - could they have used a "Dismal"?

-Larry Doyle

exhaustED Wrote:
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> The diesels are an SD45 and a GP40 in front of it.

Locotrol slave and master, respectively. An excellent place to keep these units was right behind the Joes.

Best regards,

Rob L.

LarryDoyle Wrote:
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> ntharalson Wrote:
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> > If I read everything correctly, and I don't
> always
> > do that, the second to the last unit "appears"
> to
> > be an SD45, of which the Milwaukee had ten,
> > a number I can be corrected on.  The last unit
> is
> > the electric box cab.  Just my two cents
> worth.
> >
> > Nick Tharalson,
> > Marion, IA
>
> They're kinda smushed together by the perspective,
> Nick, but the last unit is E82 steeple cab, 2nd
> to last is box cab E57B, then two diesels and two
> Joes.  It's much more apparent if you follow the
> link to pictures posted earlier.
>
> -John

Well, that's why I worded my post the way I did as I didn't see the E82.  And good question
about what was doing the switching although I suspect it was a diesel.  A date on this shot
would be useful as it might be near the end of the electrification.  

Nick Tharalson,
Marion, IA



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/18 08:48 by ntharalson.

The Deer Lodge roundhouse had a few boxcab hulks which were parts donors. Perhaps if the Harlow E57B switcher needed something heavy like a compressor or traction motor and wheelset or perhaps an entire running gear set it was easier to send the entire locomotive to Deer Lodge than to load the parts into a gondola and ship it to Harlowton. There was the politics between the electrical department and the mechanical department and what to do with a dead pelican. The mechanical folks would want it scrapped and the electrification would like to get if fixed especially if they had parts on hand. How could the roundhouse managers show repairs were cheaper than the scrap value and cost of an SD7 for the tractive effort needed for a replacement Harlow switcher.

This would seem to be a 264 train without enough working diesels or locotrol equipment functioning to run it as 100% diesel.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/18/18 12:28 by fbe.