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Date: 02/14/20 17:39
SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: photobob

A westbound pig train at Andesite in 1964 heading down to Dunsmuir for a crew change.

Robert Morris
Dunsmuir, CA
Robert Morris Photography




Date: 02/14/20 17:45
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: santafe199

Really cool shot! Composition is right-on!! And it was especially nice of Don to lend you 2 or 3 of his cell phone tree-towers... ;^)

Lance/199



Date: 02/14/20 18:48
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: yorknl

Was there a forest fire in the vicinity?



Date: 02/14/20 19:02
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: WAF

377



Date: 02/14/20 19:25
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: SouthWestRailCams

Nice Shot Photobob!

SouthWest RailCams
CA, NM, CO, TX, AZ
https://SouthWestRailCams.com



Date: 02/14/20 19:51
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: DonWinslow

santafe199 Wrote:
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> Really cool shot! Composition is right-on!! And
> it was especially nice of Don to lend you 2 or 3
> of his cell phone tree-towers... ;^)
>
> Lance/199

I wondered what happened to them. Now we know. 

Don Winslow
Glendora, CA
http://www.donwinslow.net/Railroads



Date: 02/14/20 20:03
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: BoilingMan

Bet that would look pretty good in B&W....
SR



Date: 02/14/20 20:06
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: santafe199

DonWinslow Wrote: > ... Now we know

:^)



Date: 02/14/20 20:21
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: photobob

Here's how it looks in B&W.

Robert Morris
Dunsmuir, CA
Robert Morris Photography




Date: 02/14/20 20:36
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: FiveChime

Those were the good days!
Nice photo!

Regards, Jim Evans
 



Date: 02/14/20 20:56
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: BoilingMan

photobob Wrote:
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> Here's how it looks in B&W.


Yep.
Better.
SR



Date: 02/14/20 22:06
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: E25

Just out of curiosity, Bob, how easy (...or difficult) was it to drive into the Andesite and Hotlum / Dry Creek areas in the early 'Sixties?

Greg Stadter
Phoenix, AZ



Date: 02/14/20 22:14
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: weather

Incredible shot!  The F-s add lots of class to this photo!



Date: 02/14/20 22:19
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: Ritzville

Thanks for the good memories of the 1960's with the Covered Wagons on the point.

Larry



Date: 02/15/20 05:09
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: refarkas

This would make a great full-page magazine illustration.
Bob



Date: 02/15/20 08:50
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: TCnR

E25 Wrote:
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> Just out of curiosity, Bob, how easy (...or
> difficult) was it to drive into the Andesite and
> Hotlum / Dry Creek areas in the early 'Sixties?

The story about locking his keys in his car at Couger always gets a chuckle.



Date: 02/15/20 10:48
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: WAF

SP didn't start cutting MOW roads until the mid sixties, forest roads can get to so far, the rest on foot



Date: 02/15/20 11:34
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: TCnR

WAF Wrote:
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> SP didn't start cutting MOW roads until the mid
> sixties, forest roads can get to so far, the rest
> on foot

Not sure what the context of the info is. The two roads into this area go back many years, one being a 'Military Road' that goes over the eastern side of Mt Shasta to McCloud, part of which was used by covered wagons heading into southern Oregon.

The bulldozer cuts seen in Bob's photo demonstrate how SP prevented brush fires from spreading well before there was a law requiring them, some say the Law is based on the SP practise. The blade marks along the ballast indicate they have cleared fallen rocks. There happens to be a modern trail along the ballast, usually on one side, but in this area it jumps from one side to the other. So often there is as many as four trails, two bulldozer clearings along each fence line and then the trails along the ballast.
Another modern improvement is the barbed wire gate across the trail, in this case both at Military Pass Road and at Deer Mountain road. Also noticing metal posts have been added by the Timber land owners at various places that had been access for photographers and other lovers of nature.
The area had been logged off by Weed Lumber and also Long Bell, the Forest Service has been planting in the area and also the hill sides. There's quite a few more trees in the modern view than happened to be there when Bob made his photo. Many of the Forest Service trails in the area were made by the Weed Lumber Company and had rails to enable their early logging railroad.



Date: 02/15/20 12:33
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: CajonRat

That was mean of Winslow to photoshop in the cell tower...



Date: 02/15/20 14:24
Re: SP Pigs with Mt Shasta
Author: WAF

Roads are on both sides of the ROW now. This shows the first one put in



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