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Date: 08/04/20 21:04
Late Entry, Tunnel Motor Tuesday, Imperial Valley Beets, Redlands
Author: FiveChime

Late use of the old wood beet cars. Westbound at Redlands, at the west in of ST Canyon.  
Plenty of tunnel motors coming down the hill in dynamic.

Regards, Jim Evans

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Date: 08/05/20 06:34
Re: Late Entry, Tunnel Motor Tuesday, Imperial Valley Beets, Redl
Author: SPJoe

Nice! And a two caboose ending! .... 

Joe

I thought I had seen that rear caboose in my pics before... Here's SP 4771 in Lafayette La in the 90's.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/06/20 06:49 by SPJoe.




Date: 08/05/20 07:11
Re: Late Entry, Tunnel Motor Tuesday, Imperial Valley Beets, Redl
Author: WAF

71 cars, no brake smoke, but lots of power. Before the steel cars replaced the wooden gons



Date: 08/05/20 07:26
Re: Late Entry, Tunnel Motor Tuesday, Imperial Valley Beets, Redl
Author: run8diesel

This is one sweet video...thank you for posting!

Steve Zahn
Glenview, IL

 



Date: 08/05/20 10:40
Re: Late Entry, Tunnel Motor Tuesday, Imperial Valley Beets, Redl
Author: cewherry

WAF Wrote:
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> "71 cars, no brake smoke, but lots of power..."

When I saw the title that included the words "Beets" and "Redlands" I had visions of copious
amounts of brake shoe smoke obliterating the view of most of the train. But alas, not to be.

I do note that the lead consist has 6, six-axle extended range dynamics compared with 26 axles
on the helper and when comparing the 'whine' of the DB grid cooling fans of the two consists it sounds
like the helper is in full dynamic while the lead engineer is calling for slightly less retarding. 

This is the first loaded beet train I've seen on Beaumont hill without the requisite 'cloud'. Strange indeed.

Charlie



Date: 08/05/20 14:11
Re: Late Entry, Tunnel Motor Tuesday, Imperial Valley Beets, Redl
Author: callum_out

The extended range DBs don't mean much as long as you can keep the speed up enough for the dynamics
to work. At 20-25 that train should come down on dynamics only assuming (big word) they're all working.

Out 



Date: 08/06/20 06:32
Re: Late Entry, Tunnel Motor Tuesday, Imperial Valley Beets, Redl
Author: RailRat

Nice video, them beets must be pretty darn heavy!
What date/location?
Congrats on VOTD too!

Jim Baker
Riverside, CA



Date: 08/06/20 09:48
Re: Late Entry, Tunnel Motor Tuesday, Imperial Valley Beets, Redl
Author: cewherry

callum_out Wrote:
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> The extended range DBs don't mean much as long as
> you can keep the speed up enough for the dynamics
> to work.

Keeping the speed up is never a challenge in descending grade situations; gravity will do that for you. The real challenge
is keeping the speed down and under control which extended range does admirably by providing maximum retarding
effort below 23 mph, (the speed where 'standard' DB retarding force begins to fade), down to 6 mph where extended range
is still providing maximum retarding force. So, in actual practice the "Extended Range" is below 23 mph, not above.

>At 20-25 that train should come down on
> dynamics only assuming (big word) they're all
> working.

Which appears to be the case in the video.

Charlie



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