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Date: 11/20/20 12:23
WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: santafe199

Art tells me he was working for the KS Highway Department when these 2 beauties were taken. They were putting him up in a motel in rural Kansas City (Johnson County), and he had a lot of free time on his hands. Whereupon I mumbled something like: Damn the BAD luck! In 1959 it’s a pretty good bet his motel was located “out in the sticks”. And I’d wager there’s been just a few changes in the last 61 years… ;^)

As for the Wabash power, Art tells me Miss Katy was in a bit of a power crunch at the time and the Wabash was able to step up to the horsepower plate for them…

1. WAB 1187 leads a southbound MKT manifest train near 75th St S of Merriam, KS.

2. Consist shot of above.
(2 B/W negatives by William A. Gibson Jr. “circa” 1959)

Thanks for looking back!
Lance Garrels (santafe199)
Art Gibson (wag216)






Date: 11/20/20 12:30
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: Spoony81

Wabash #1187's older sibling #1189 is preserved and running at the Monticello Railway Museum in Illinois. It was the last F7 ordered by the Wabash.  My son and I had a nice cab ride in it last year during RR Days

 



Date: 11/20/20 13:07
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: wabash2800

Thanks for sharing as always. 
There were at least several railroads that leased Wabash F units: CNJ and Pennsy, to name a couple. There is a photo of one on the Pennsy GR&I at Sturgis, Michigan in the 1950s. My late friend and Wabash Conductor, Clarence Montgomery, was working on the Wabash in the 1950s when he and his crew saw a Wabash F unit on the Pennsy GR&I at Wolcottville, Indiana one day. The Wabash 4th District crossed the GR&I at Wolcottivle. To say the least, the crew was a little puzzled.  There are also some photos of Wabash F units at the Pennsy engine terminal at Fort Wayne, Indiana in the same time period. (A couple of GR&I locals would originate and terminate at Fort Wayne.)

Victor A Baird
http://www.erstwhilepublications.com



Date: 11/20/20 13:21
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: kenN

Victor, I can confirm the presence of Wabash F-units on the GR&I in the mid-'50s.  I have a really blurry shot of one passing through my hometown of Moline, Michigan (just south of Grand Rapids) taken with my Kodak Baby Brownie in 1955 or 56, and remember seeing Wabash units regularly. Ken Nagel



Date: 11/20/20 13:35
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: zoohogger

Did Katy have a lot of Alco FA units?

Rick z



Date: 11/20/20 13:57
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: texchief1

Nice posts, Lance!

RC Lundgren



Date: 11/20/20 14:08
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: wabash2800

I don't know how many Katy had, but this one along with others were re-engined with EMD prime movers. So did EMD actively pursue RRs to re-engine Alcos and Baldwins with EMD prime moves or was this just something that RRs pushed? In the grand scheme of things there couldn't have been many of these "sex change" operations...

Victor A. Baird
http://www.erstwhilepublications.com

zoohogger Wrote:
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> Did Katy have a lot of Alco FA units?
>
> Rick z



Date: 11/20/20 14:37
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: refarkas

Two historic beauties.
Bob



Date: 11/20/20 15:33
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: lynnpowell

< < < Did Katy have a lot of Alco FA units? > > >

18 FA1s and 1 FA2, no B units.



Date: 11/20/20 17:00
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: Milwaukee

Yes it is amazing how that part of Johnson County has changed in 60 years. Thankfully that general location is still a great place to watch trains.

Thanks for sharing as I was unaware the MKT had used the Wabash power.



Date: 11/20/20 19:39
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: gandydancer4

Katy Did have ALCO diesel units but if you look carefully, that's an EMD rebuild. Look at the roof line. Several "granger" roads rebuilt their ALCOs with EMD "innards".  ×   



Date: 11/21/20 09:00
Re: WAG running extra (#96): Wabash in Kansas?
Author: LV95032

wabash2800 Wrote:
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> I don't know how many Katy had, but this one along
> with others were re-engined with EMD prime movers.
> So did EMD actively pursue RRs to re-engine Alcos
> and Baldwins with EMD prime moves or was this just
> something that RRs pushed? In the grand scheme of
> things there couldn't have been many of these "sex
> change" operations...
>
> Victor A. Baird
> http://www.erstwhilepublications.com
>
Actually there were quite a lot mostly concentrated on the mid-west granger railroads. Katy, Rock Island, Frisco did FA's. Katy, Rock Island, MP converted RS3's. Union RR, CNW, Katy and others put EMD engines in Baldwin roadswitchers. And there were scattered others.
RWJ



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