Eastern Railroad Discussion > NS derailement - East Palestine

https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/crews-on-scene-of-train-derailment-in-east-palestine/

https://www.wfmj.com/story/48310178/train-derailment-fire-reported-in-east-palestine

NS 32N on the ground in Enon Valley PA, train derailed and struck a building. Power is disconneccting and getting out of there. Train is all over the place and flames are blazing.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/03/23 19:31 by KB5WK.

Location is at East Palestine, OH right next to the Pennsylvania State Line at the James St crossing. There is a large brick building there that is on fire.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR

The next news conference will be held at 6 a.m.

21 WFMJ News crews are on scene working to learn more from witnesses and officials and will provide updates as we get them.

https://twitter.com/UEA_PA_Alerts/status/1621748534155296775

Detailed information from the East Palestine Talk FB Page:

https://twitter.com/auroramyst/status/1621740919136329731



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I wonder how traffic will be detoured?

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orhs4ever Wrote:
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> I wonder how traffic will be detoured?
>
> Posted from Android

Hopefully everyone in town and fighting the fire is safe. As for detours, NS has some options. Cleveland Line via Bayard and Yellow Creek or NKP/Youngstown line via Ashtabula. Obviously that’s all dependent on having enough qualified crews.

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FWIW, 269 & 23G appear to be tying down east of Altoona, Pa. at CP Antis.
 

A 26X was rerouted via Buffalo and Harrisburg. Now I see why.

halfmoonharold Wrote:
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> A 26X was rerouted via Buffalo and Harrisburg. Now
> I see why.

I saw a site with a lot of videos of the fire. It's bad.

Is this on the ex-PRR line between Pittsburgh and Cleveland ?

joemvcnj Wrote:
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> Is this on the ex-PRR line between Pittsburgh and
> Cleveland ?   Yes. 

It will be a week. If not longer till trains run again through the derailment site.

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NS is still running 29G, 261, 67E despite the train wreck, i am curious about whether they’ll detour or tie down somewhere between harrisburg and altoona….

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NS could run down the line as far as Alliance, Ohio and then take the Bayard branch to the Ohio River. From there follow the Ohio to Rochester, Pa and then back onto normal routing. Another option is a line that breaks off at the old Wood Tower site and goes to Youngstown, from there north on the old NYC to Ashtabula, Ohio. Then turn west on the old NKP for Cleveland. On the west side of Cleveland you can regain the regular line. Now both these alternate lines are single track and I don't know about signalling. But one way traffic flows could definately be set up. 



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Pictures. Still burning at midday.
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/nation/2023/02/04/massive-fire-train-derailment-ohio-border/stories/202302030111

Can stacks use the Bayard?

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29 and 30 are cancelled today, February 4, and tomorrow, February 5.  Apparently no alternate service.  You would think with the advance notice Amtrak could have run 29 and 30 between Washington and Pittsburgh, with a bus bridge to and from the Lake Shore in Cleveland.  Oh well.  I suppose some passengers could be accommodated on the Cardinal.  

From Amtrak Alerts on Twitter:   

Amtrak Alerts  

@AmtrakAlerts 
6h
SERVICE ADVISORY: Due to a disabled freight train blocking the tracks in the area, Capitol Limited Train 29 and Capitol Limited Train 30 which were scheduled for service on 2/4 and 2/5 have been canceled. For traveling assistance, please call or text 1-800-USA-RAIL.

Jimbo Wrote:
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> 29 and 30 are cancelled today, February 4, and
> tomorrow, February 5.  Apparently no alternate
> service.  You would think with the advance notice
> Amtrak could have run 29 and 30 between Washington
> and Pittsburgh, with a bus bridge to and from the
> Lake Shore in Cleveland.  Oh well.  I suppose
> some passengers could be accommodated on the
> Cardinal.  

It has become quite clear that Amtrak's current management has no interest in providing any sort of alternative service when it can just cancel the trains with impunity.

halfmoonharold Wrote:
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> A 26X was rerouted via Buffalo and Harrisburg. Now
> I see why.

Routed via Binghamton, I presume.

Darthsimpletext Wrote:
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> NS is still running 29G, 261, 67E despite the
> train wreck, i am curious about whether they’ll
> detour or tie down somewhere between harrisburg
> and altoona….
>
> Posted from iPhone

Yesterday’s 29G actually came back through Altoona eastbound mid-afternoon. Word is it was heading back to Harrisburg to make its detour.

Trolleysteve Wrote:
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> NS could run down the line as far as Alliance,Ohio and then take the Bayard branch to the Ohio River.

It's a continuation of the Cleveland Line, not the Bayard branch, east of Alliance. Not all trains can use that route due to clearance restrictions between Bayard and Yellow Creek. No double stacks or multi levels allowed.

Roger Durfee
Akron, OH