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Date: 08/15/18 21:45
What happened to this engine?
Author: ACR_Ted

Does anyone know what the story is about this engine? It is NS 2727 photographed at Fargo OK on August 6 on an eastbound BNSF train.

A search on line came up with nothing.

Thanks

Ted



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/18 21:46 by ACR_Ted.




Date: 08/15/18 23:17
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: 2720

Looks like it suffered an electrical fire!

Mike



Date: 08/16/18 06:03
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: funnelfan

2720 Wrote:
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> Looks like it suffered an electrical fire!
>
> Mike

Not under the cab, all the primary electrical gear is behind the cab. This looks like maybe it hit a semi truck and caught the fuel on fire. Although there appears to be minimal damage to the handrails.

Ted Curphey
Ontario, OR



Date: 08/16/18 06:30
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: mile250

Fire involving batteries, or connections to them?



Date: 08/16/18 07:43
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: KY_Railfan

This looks like damage from an external fire. There really isn't much damage apparent to the engine. The Conductor's side window appears to have been melted, but there just doesn't seem to be much damage to anything inside.



Date: 08/16/18 08:29
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: electromac

mile250 Wrote:
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> Fire involving batteries, or connections to them?
AGREE!!!!!



Date: 08/16/18 09:04
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: Roadrailer

The burn patterns indicate the fire was more involved on the conductor side, but there is fire damage to the truck and nose as well.
Most likely the fire started external to the locomotive then may have included the cab interior, hence the warning.
 



Date: 08/16/18 09:13
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: arizonaBNSF

Typical EMD . . . 



Date: 08/16/18 09:13
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: Foamductor

Batteries on these are on the other side. But I'm torn on if I agree that the fire was external. I don't see any physical damage to the engine as if it hit something, There's a curious amount of fire damage near where the traction motor cable duct is. Also, all 3 axles on this truck appear to be idlers but that can be due to multiple reasons.

electromac Wrote:
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> mile250 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fire involving batteries, or connections to
> them?
> AGREE!!!!!



Date: 08/16/18 09:31
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: Roadrailer

This could be a trailing unit of a consist involving a crossing collision. Fuel tanks and such don't always immediately explode into flames as many incidients involve multiple locomotives and train cars in the subsequent fire.
The comment of idler axles in the truck could point to a traction motor fire.



Date: 08/16/18 10:26
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: ts1457

Maybe it got T-boned at a grade crossing. 



Date: 08/16/18 11:43
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: Trainmaniac07

The things that stand out to me are the number board being melted, the cab glass what looks to be shattered and the cab window open.

With a melted number board there was some significant heat up there but there is not many burn marks.
Something happened to the cab glass, the window is open, likely because it cant be shut now. I would also think we should be able to see some of the cab interior back wall, my assumption is that we cant because it charred. 

would a traction motor fire torch the inside of a cab?



Date: 08/16/18 17:03
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: PHall

Trainmaniac07 Wrote:
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> The things that stand out to me are the number
> board being melted, the cab glass what looks to be
> shattered and the cab window open.
>
> With a melted number board there was some
> significant heat up there but there is not many
> burn marks.
> Something happened to the cab glass, the window is
> open, likely because it cant be shut now. I would
> also think we should be able to see some of the
> cab interior back wall, my assumption is that we
> cant because it charred. 
>
> would a traction motor fire torch the inside of a
> cab?


Would have to burn through a 1 inch thick steel plate first. Probably not.



Date: 08/16/18 19:00
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: TomG

You guys are overlooking the obvious. Being a mechanic and a fireman, Ive seen this alot and have repaired dammage and paint. It wasnt the engine that burned, it was along side something that was on fire. The dammage was from various heat and flame inpingement.



Date: 08/16/18 19:38
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: irhoghead

Probably residual from the GE that was on fire the next track over.



Date: 08/16/18 19:58
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: gonx

Collision with a UFO; hit and run.



Date: 08/17/18 03:17
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: Hookdragkick

Conductor left burrito on sidewall heater for too long.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/18/18 02:42 by Hookdragkick.



Date: 08/17/18 06:54
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: jst3751

Hookdragkick Wrote:
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> Conductor left burrito on sidewalk heater for too
> long.

I nominate for Post of the Day.



Date: 08/18/18 02:01
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: Brian_P

Junk EMD SD70M-2. 



Date: 08/18/18 14:14
Re: What happened to this engine?
Author: dt8089

Could of hit a truck load of Sodium Hydroxide (Caustic Soda).  Dan



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